Splitting Atoms Poll - Cgy pick Draisaitl/Bennett

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Why would Colorado do it? They have Johnson and Barrie at the RHD.

A team that could probably trade up because they have the prospects to do so and could use a player like Ekblad is the Flyers or the Red Wings. However, Tallon wants to stay in the top 10, so maybe Anaheim could package both firsts for Ekblad.

I just don't see any point for Colorado to.

After Barrie went down in the playoffs the Avs werent the same, I could see them wanting him for insurance.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by automaton 3

Fair comment.

I think the Oilers go with Draisaitl because he's a better fit for them:

1. Size
2. Elite passing to compliment their forwards
3. Can step into the lineup sooner than later
4. Maybe he was just trying to say the right things, but he has indicated that he'd like to be an Oiler

Of course, maybe we're giving the Oiler's brass too much credit by assuming that they'll do something that makes sense.

While I do think 1 and 2 do inform who is the BPA, 3 and 4 do not and are secondary considerations at best. If we are nearly unanimous that Bennett is a better player since we're apparently immune to these considerations, we're being at least a bit hypocritical in suggesting the Oilers pass on him. And probably a lot hypocritical.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

While I do think 1 and 2 do inform who is the BPA, 3 and 4 do not and are secondary considerations at best. If we are nearly unanimous that Bennett is a better player since we're apparently immune to these considerations, we're being at least a bit hypocritical in suggesting the Oilers pass on him. And probably a lot hypocritical.

Still disagree. I've seen separate quotes from our GM and our Pres both saying they believe almost every team has these top guys in different orders. Based on other stuff I've heard it sounds like Draisaitl will be top two on some teams lists and further down on others.

So why would it be hypocritical to believe Draisaitl may be top two for the Oilers and 4-5th on the Flames list? You are taking about BPA as if the teams agree on which ones are the best but clearly there's a difference of opinion on that.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by northcrunk

After Barrie went down in the playoffs the Avs werent the same, I could see them wanting him for insurance.

Well it's not like he injured himself easily. That was a dirty hit on Cooke's part.

[Five-hole]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Still disagree. I've seen separate quotes from our GM and our Pres both saying they believe almost every team has these top guys in different orders. Based on other stuff I've heard it sounds like Draisaitl will be top two on some teams lists and further down on others.



So why would it be hypocritical to believe Draisaitl may be top two for the Oilers and 4-5th on the Flames list? You are taking about BPA as if the teams agree on which ones are the best but clearly there's a difference of opinion on that.

That's not exactly what I'm disagreeing with. Rather, that nearly everybody who thought that the Oil WILL (not should) take Draisaitl think that we should take Bennett over him. It's not that some do, it's that all do. It's disingenuous, is all.

The fact that I care demonstrates how anxious I am for this draft to get here. Lol

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by thethumwood

Do you have a link to this poll?

Not sure it's allowed to link other forums.

My apologies Mods if I overstep here.

Poll

Bennett/Draisaitl thread

[GGG]

I like Drasisait --l big body, center, only knock is a little lack of effort some nights. I think that can be fixed. Look at a how far a guy like Mantha fell based on effort and how he tore it up this year.

[northcrunk]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Well it's not like he injured himself easily. That was a dirty hit on Cooke's part.

For sure, but those things are going to happen in the playoffs. I could see them being tempted as they have pieces they can move and Ekblad would really help solidify the team into a contender.

[Monahan23]

I think MDC would go 2nd not Ehlers.

But I love Draisaitl and it's close but Bennett just makes things happen and him with Gaudau would be fun to watch. He also plays the best 200ft game in the draft.

However Bennett lacks the high end Hockey Sense and Passing ability that Draisaitl has. Draisaitl would work really well with our scoring wingers like Sen, Gaudreau, Granlund if moved, Hudler.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by Monahan23

I think MDC would go 2nd not Ehlers.

However Bennett lacks the high end Hockey Sense and Passing ability that Draisaitl has. Draisaitl would work really well with our scoring wingers like Sen, Gaudreau, Granlund if moved, Hudler.

I don't think Bennett does lack hockey sense or passing in comparison to Draisaitl. Both are premiere playmakers from what I've seen and read. Only thing Draisaitl has on Bennett IMO is a bigger frame, bigger reach and a bigger stick (have you seen his blade?!)

Dal Colle could go top 3 this draft IMO, hard to rule much out of the realm of possibility.

[RyZ]

The only real poll will be Reinhart v Bennett as far as forwards go.

[GreenLantern2814]

This latest poll has convinced me we're getting Reinhart. And that doesn't upset me in the slightest.

[Gaskal]

Originally Posted by RyZ

The only real poll will be Reinhart v Bennett as far as forwards go.

Can't wait to see the poll for this one. I'm stuck coinflipping myself.

[saXon]

Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Someone better not pick Draisaitl... Troll pending...

Take your troll and shovel it, Draisaitl is going to be a stud.

[Yrebmi]

Originally Posted by RyZ

The only real poll will be Reinhart v Bennett as far as forwards go.

On that I would go with Reinhart but it's stupidly close.
Reinhart only gets the edge because his brother is already in the system and that is a very minor consideration.

[Monahan23]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

I don't think Bennett does lack hockey sense or passing in comparison to Draisaitl. Both are premiere playmakers from what I've seen and read. Only thing Draisaitl has on Bennett IMO is a bigger frame, bigger reach and a bigger stick (have you seen his blade?!)

Dal Colle could go top 3 this draft IMO, hard to rule much out of the realm of possibility.

Ya, MDC was supposed to go 3rd until January. He could still sneak in.

On Bennett and Drysaddle, I think Bennett is still a good passer and has a high I.Q, higher than almost everyone in the draft but Draisaitl is the best passer in the draft and has a very high Ice Q, so while Bennett's no slouch, Draisaitl's better in those two aspects. WOuld rather have Bennett just because of Leon's speed.

I think both of them won't be available by our pick though. I predict
FLA: Ekblad
BUF: Bennett
EDM: Draisaitl
CGY: Reinhart

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

That's not exactly what I'm disagreeing with. Rather, that nearly everybody who thought that the Oil WILL (not should) take Draisaitl think that we should take Bennett over him. It's not that some do, it's that all do. It's disingenuous, is all.

The fact that I care demonstrates how anxious I am for this draft to get here. Lol

I don't really think it is disingenuous.

I picked Bennett, even though I think Draisaitl may be a better player. I believe that Draisaitl will probably go in the top three, but even in the event that both he and Bennett are somehow available to the Flames, there is possibly a better fit for Calgary with Bennett. It is entirely possible that the deciding factor for this team—which is not necessarily the same for other teams—is speed, which makes Bennett the better pick for the Flames.

When the players are this close, it is really difficult to settle on the best player available, and that in turn means that different teams will prioritise different skill-sets in their analyses.

[Monahan23]

Originally Posted by Five-hole

That's not exactly what I'm disagreeing with. Rather, that nearly everybody who thought that the Oil WILL (not should) take Draisaitl think that we should take Bennett over him. It's not that some do, it's that all do. It's disingenuous, is all.

The fact that I care demonstrates how anxious I am for this draft to get here. Lol

I think tye Oilers should take Draisaitl. They NEED a big centre, arguably more than defence. Everybody in the top 4 is so tightly packed that they can pick for need. Draisaitl is a great passer for the Oilers scoring wingers and they can just surround him with speed which they have plenty of. If I'm the Oilers I take Draisaitl over Bennett and Reinhart. Although it's possible the Sabres take Leon because there are rumours they like him but I bet they take Bennett because they need scoring more than a passer.

I believe the draft goes
FLA: Ekblad
BUF: Bennett
EDM: Draisaitl
CGY: Reinhart

[Tinordi]

I think it'll go

Fla: Reinhart
Buffalo: Bennett
Edmonton: Draisatl
Calgary: Ekblad

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

I think it'll go

Fla: Reinhart
Buffalo: Bennett
Edmonton: Draisatl
Calgary: Ekblad

Lol, I am so reading the HF forum for Oilers' fans if they pass up on Ekblad. They'd be so pissed.