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Old 05-27-2014, 08:48 PM   #921
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I still would have taken it. A pick is a pick and without cammy, we probably would be sitting with a better pick now.

Regardless, they can't just have small wingers. If cammy is back then Hudler has to go. They can't keep all the small guys just because they're good guys.
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:59 PM   #922
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1. I would have taken the third and the $$$ savings

2. I don't know how legit the fourth period even is

3. If I scouted Cammalerri before the deadline I probably wouldn't have been that eager to get him either
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:09 PM   #923
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We also need the #13 for a future Flame.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:09 PM   #924
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I seriously doubt we finish 10 points lower without cammi as some are suggesting. Edmonton was a FAR worse team than us this year. More so than the standings suggest
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I know it's been rehashed lots but I'm still astounded that an Anaheim or Columbus didn't step up. Anaheim dumped Penner for a fourth and didn't replace him. Surely they could have dealt their second to add a proven playoff performer. And Columbus could have sent us the second they got from LA after fleecing LA in the Gaborik deal. It sounds that all other suitors offered a third and when Burke said no they moved on. LA was probably the closest as Duhatschek said recently that they would have turned to Cammy if they couldn't get Gaborik.

Just figures we get the shaft on the first deadline when GMs return to their senses. Would have been nice to have an extra third which we could have used to move up or trade for a player but what you gonna do.
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:43 PM   #926
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That's why I'm so glad Anaheim got the boot like that.

Contending team, with elite talent in their primes, tons of solid young prospects, lots of solid impact players in the 22-27 year old range, and extra draft picks.

If the goal is to win the Stanley Cup, then get the #### of your wallet and rent yourself a potential impact player. Cammalleri really could have helped them.

So glad Gaborik and the Kings buried those cheap arse pieces of crap.
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That's why I'm so glad Anaheim got the boot like that.

Contending team, with elite talent in their primes, tons of solid young prospects, lots of solid impact players in the 22-27 year old range, and extra draft picks.

If the goal is to win the Stanley Cup, then get the #### of your wallet and rent yourself a potential impact player. Cammalleri really could have helped them.

So glad Gaborik and the Kings buried those cheap arse pieces of crap.
Amen bro. Now watch them learn from their mistake in the off season sign him and leave us with sfa
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:11 PM   #928
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I know it's been rehashed lots but I'm still astounded that an Anaheim or Columbus didn't step up. Anaheim dumped Penner for a fourth and didn't replace him. Surely they could have dealt their second to add a proven playoff performer. And Columbus could have sent us the second they got from LA after fleecing LA in the Gaborik deal. It sounds that all other suitors offered a third and when Burke said no they moved on. LA was probably the closest as Duhatschek said recently that they would have turned to Cammy if they couldn't get Gaborik.

Just figures we get the shaft on the first deadline when GMs return to their senses. Would have been nice to have an extra third which we could have used to move up or trade for a player but what you gonna do.
I think Anaheim thought they can get Vanek or Moulson so they traded Penner to make room for one of the two. They were not the only team that made a mistake thinking they can get Vanek or Moulson. Cammy was just an afterthought and teams just ran out of time and panicked. I bet if both Vanek and Moulson got traded early, Cammy would have gone somewhere and Burke would have gotten what he was looking for. Oh well....
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:16 PM   #929
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I think Anaheim thought they can get Vanek or Moulson so they traded Penner to make room for one of the two. They were not the only team that made a mistake thinking they can get Vanek or Moulson. Cammy was just an afterthought and teams just ran out of time and panicked. I bet if both Vanek and Moulson got traded early, Cammy would have gone somewhere and Burke would have gotten what he was looking for. Oh well....
Rumour was that they went all in to get Kessler. Granted they should have had a last minute back up plan. Cammi being that back up plan.

Also I'm not sure Burke would have gotten what he wanted for Cammi. I heard he wanted a first and prospect. It really seemed like teams did not want to give up much for pending ufa's.
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Old 05-27-2014, 10:33 PM   #930
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I'm fine with Burke not taking below market value for Cammalleri. It sets it up so that the next time he is going to make a deal, they better pony up.
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Rumour was that they went all in to get Kessler. Granted they should have had a last minute back up plan. Cammi being that back up plan.

Also I'm not sure Burke would have gotten what he wanted for Cammi. I heard he wanted a first and prospect. It really seemed like teams did not want to give up much for pending ufa's.
They went after Legwand after they didn't get Kesler. They were outbid by Detroit and as roof daddy said, open the wallet if you want the player and have the assets. Given that they jumped to Legwand and not Cammy, I wonder how interested they were in him. Should have been but weren't and good to see it hit them in the behind.
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Rumour was that they went all in to get Kessler. Granted they should have had a last minute back up plan. Cammi being that back up plan.

Also I'm not sure Burke would have gotten what he wanted for Cammi. I heard he wanted a first and prospect. It really seemed like teams did not want to give up much for pending ufa's.
The only place I heard where it was a 1st and a prospect wanted was posters on here making up deals and I thought that was unrealistic.
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Old 05-28-2014, 12:55 AM   #933
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if you're feeling bad about cammy, you can feel good on the return we got for Berra.
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Amen bro. Now watch them learn from their mistake in the off season sign him and leave us with sfa
Not directed at you, but some of you guys seriously need to get over the fact that Cammalleri was not traded at the deadline this past season. The fact of the matter is that not every pending UFA will always be traded. Virtually every team will have moments in which mitigated circumstances will prevent them from moving their high-value pending free agents in exchange for picks, prospects, and younger talent. Yes, it would be nice if the Flames could maximise the value of every one of their player assets, but this is not always realistic. In Cammalleri's case, it is what it is, and there is little sense whining about what could have been, because in the end it probably could have not.
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Old 05-28-2014, 05:49 AM   #935
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Burke doesn't like to lose trades. Dealing cammalleri for a third would most likely be a lost trade in his eyes.
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Not directed at you, but some of you guys seriously need to get over the fact that Cammalleri was not traded at the deadline this past season. The fact of the matter is that not every pending UFA will always be traded. Virtually every team will have moments in which mitigated circumstances will prevent them from moving their high-value pending free agents in exchange for picks, prospects, and younger talent. Yes, it would be nice if the Flames could maximise the value of every one of their player assets, but this is not always realistic. In Cammalleri's case, it is what it is, and there is little sense whining about what could have been, because in the end it probably could have not.
Was thinking about this. How about we move Cammys rights for Dallas for the rights for Mark Winther (Dallas' second rounder in 2012 who they aren't going to sign)? That way we get a second rounder for Cammy and me and my fellow malcontents are satisfied and will never mention this again
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:54 AM   #937
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^ thats just it. I think our best bet is to trade rights for rights. Chicago would make sense with them not able to sign Hayes. Take a crack at him before Florida gets the chance.
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The only place I heard where it was a 1st and a prospect wanted was posters on here making up deals and I thought that was unrealistic.
Whatever Burke was originally asking he admitted that they lowered their price on deadline day based on what was happening.
I assume that to mean that he wanted a 1st, but would have taken a 2nd on deadline day - but was only offered a 3rd
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If we get Hayes' rights, I think he'd prefer his college buddies over his brother, don't you think?
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I still would have taken it. A pick is a pick and without cammy, we probably would be sitting with a better pick now.

Regardless, they can't just have small wingers. If cammy is back then Hudler has to go. They can't keep all the small guys just because they're good guys.
I don't believe that. There is no way the Flames were finishing worse than the Oilers, Cammalleri or not.
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