CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[CaptainCrunch]

[ineedanother]

Halifax seems like the best choice, as he has been very quite the last few game days. But the list is only 4 long so we should have this game. Any town should not be worried if they are killed as they still win when the last mafia member gets killed.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ineedanother

Halifax seems like the best choice, as he has been very quite the last few game days. But the list is only 4 long so we should have this game. Any town should not be worried if they are killed as they still win when the last mafia member gets killed.

Yep, that's where I'm at pretty much. One thing to keep in mind though is we still could lose I think. We're using today on captain crunch, so that's one proven town killed tonight. Then theoretically if we guess wrong 2 or 3 times we could lose another two or three proven town and be down to only unknowns?

Not that it will likely happen, but I don't think we're guaranteed quite yet.

[jayswin]

That why I was really hoping diss would ditch the sallias investiation after the kermitology thing happened. Oh well, we're here now.

[ineedanother]

Well there is only 4 unknowns after we kill CC today.
Hockeyguy15
HalifaxDrunk
Flameswin
Undercoverbrother

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by ineedanother

Well there is only 4 unknowns after we kill CC today.
Hockeyguy15
HalifaxDrunk
Flameswin
Undercoverbrother

Out of that list if it was me I'd go

Halifaxdrunk
Hockey guy15
Ucb
Flameswin.

But if I wasn't me and based on how I've played id probably have the list as

Halifaxdrunk
Flameswin
Hockeyguy15
Ucb

If ucb is mafia id be very surprised and congratulate him on an excellent game played.

[CaptainCrunch]

Its a shame, I think there should be an exception made and I get one more night kill from beyond the grave. Cause I'd like to take a shot at Parker after yesterday.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Rathji

I have to say that us lynching completly last night knowing that CC was mafia was a bad plan. I was not around for that entire duration, but if we had been wrong it would have been game over for us.

Killing CC would have eliminated his ability to communicate with Parker, which should have both end of us, but the remaining Parker mafia member screwing up saved us from that minor slip-up

Disagree. I thought it was a very well thought out, calculated risk. This game is all about gathering information and guessing and we really excelled the last game day, to the point where a few of us had the last three members of Barrow nailed.

What you wanted to do was exactly what CC wanted us to do. He saw the writing on the wall and tried to put his two pals on the backburner, give instructions to the last Parker mafia and then get lynched, with a plan for the "known" town members to get picked off by his last two guys and the last Parker.

It actually could have worked out too, as we've been known to "forget" someone who was a target the previous day as new speculation comes out on the next day.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Its a shame, I think there should be an exception made and I get one more night kill from beyond the grave. Cause I'd like to take a shot at Parker after yesterday.

Who do you think it is? Who would you take a shot at?

I'd have to say it'd be incredibly entertaining to take the risk and just let known mafia roam around trying to kill the other mafia, but oh well.

[jayswin]

It was actually a really cool ending to the game. A lot came together. I had DropIt on my radar for awhile but was afraid to add more names when we needed to come together and focus on 1 or 2 guys (completely and captain) then DropIt made a couple of posts that just jumped out at me as "this guy is 100% barrow".

The one where he had legoman as his vote and then switched to captain crunch after CC outed himself was the clincher for me. Funnily enough, it was actually his forgetting to unvote legoman and mazrim subsequently reminding him, that sealed it for me.

DropIt: votes Legoman (Barrow's scapegoat all game)

Captaincrunch: outs himself because of completely getting piled on

Town doesn't bite, still votes completely

DropIt: Sees opportunity to "separate" himself from Barrow, votes for Captain after seeing that no one else, so his vote won't matter

Mazrim: reminds him that he has to unvote legoman

Everything pops out and becomes obvious.

[jayswin]

My one big blunder and regret was CBL, though. He wasn't right about everything, but was one of the most astute, dedicated assets we had, and I went for the throat after one weird voting pattern and day of behavior.

To be fair, it was really odd to me that he was so keen on voting me out as soon as the day opened up and then shifted away from me so quickly when my lynching gained traction. It was just too perfect in my head.

And in hindsight I really set us back and wasted a kill and time, as well as giving mafia great cover for that day. Also, he's one of my favorite posters on CP, so I felt bad at the way I was posting, as I was in "game mode" lol, and wasn't letting up.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Disagree. I thought it was a very well thought out, calculated risk. This game is all about gathering information and guessing and we really excelled the last game day, to the point where a few of us had the last three members of Barrow nailed.

What you wanted to do was exactly what CC wanted us to do. He saw the writing on the wall and tried to put his two pals on the backburner, give instructions to the last Parker mafia and then get lynched, with a plan for the "known" town members to get picked off by his last two guys and the last Parker.

It actually could have worked out too, as we've been known to "forget" someone who was a target the previous day as new speculation comes out on the next day.

Personally I first made myself seem a bit out of touch with the game, my hope was that you would all see me as a minor player, that's also why I stayed on Lego for so long and beyond the cops reveal. I was hoping that I would be in plain sight. It was unfortunate that Lego was revealed as town, but I figured he was town but had played weird enough to make him a target and get him out.

To be honest Rathji was the guy that was the true threat in this game.

But I did the calculations, knew I was screwed, and decided to throw the myself out there and have the cool villains death, and be able to openly communicate with the other mob, after trying to do it very quietly when I was hiding.

I was so close in this game twice first in gaining a ton of credibility in this town to drive end game, and with this sacrifice one I had the cop and doctor reveal, However winning still depends on the last mobster staying under the radar, and having the maximum two a night kills and some blunders by the town.

Now

In terms of who would get the death mark



Out of the Darkness and into the light.

I know who the last member is, it is as plain as the random waves of water after I throw Baxter's corpse into the river, and he's been among you above you and leading you all the time.

[jayswin]

So not HalifaxDrunk then? Because he hasn't been like that at all. The only guy who isn't proven town who's been leading the whole time is Hockeyguy15. Is that who you think it is?

I mean it's moot now, anyways, as strombad showed that we win mathematically even with the worst case scenario. But I'm still interested in who it's going to be.

I had HalifaxDrunk #1 and Hockeyguy #2. I guess HG15 would make some sense, but he's just such a hard read, as he posts all the time and accuses everyone under the sun.

[jayswin]

If it is, his strategy actually worked quite well and could have won it for Parker if the other three weren't killed so fast.

He posted like that last game, so nothing seemed suspicious. Plus, with his sheer volume and range of accusations and posts, it would be nearly impossible to accuse of him of one single suspicion during the game and have everyone agree and jump on board.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by flameswin

If it is, his strategy actually worked quite well and could have won it for Parker if the other three weren't killed so fast.

He posted like that last game, so nothing seemed suspicious. Plus, with his sheer volume and range of accusations and posts, it would be nearly impossible to accuse of him of one single suspicion during the game and have everyone agree and jump on board.

Well first of all CC could just be screwing with us, so I'm not really paying attention to what he says.

Funny enough I had HD and then you, but after the last couple of days you bumped up to #1.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Well first of all CC could just be screwing with us, so I'm not really paying attention to what he says.

Funny enough I had HD and then you, but after the last couple of days you bumped up to #1.

Haha, easy there cowboy, the game's essentially over. strombad posted our worst case scenario and we'd still win.

The only way we could lose is if dissentowner is lying about being the cop, but we'll know that tonight when he gets killed.

That actually would be pretty hilarious if he was the last parker, and ended up winning. I can't see it though, as someone would have stepped up by now and said "no, I'm the cop". So because of that, I'd say we've won.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Well first of all CC could just be screwing with us, so I'm not really paying attention to what he says.

Funny enough I had HD and then you, but after the last couple of days you bumped up to #1.

Also, I was just going with what Captain said out of curiosity for why he thinks that. My first guess is still HalifaxDrunk.

Curious why I jumped to number one on your list?

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Haha, easy there cowboy, the game's essentially over. strombad posted our worst case scenario and we'd still win.

The only way we could lose is if dissentowner is lying about being the cop, but we'll know that tonight when he gets killed.

That actually would be pretty hilarious if he was the last parker, and ended up winning. I can't see it though, as someone would have stepped up by now and said "no, I'm the cop". So because of that, I'd say we've won.

Don't read my post as upset, I'm not. It doesn't matter to me what order we lynch us 4 unknowns, I was just commenting is all.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by flameswin

Also, I was just going with what Captain said out of curiosity for why he thinks that. My first guess is still HalifaxDrunk.

Curious why I jumped to number one on your list?

Early on you weren't really helping out even though you really wanted to play, then you got called out and changed. Also any time someone says you are suspicious you always want to know why. Just seems weird to have to know why even if they aren't really pushing your name hard.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Early on you weren't really helping out even though you really wanted to play, then you got called out and changed. Also any time someone says you are suspicious you always want to know why. Just seems weird to have to know why even if they aren't really pushing your name hard.

Yeah, I played a strange game, because it was the second one. There was a lot more innocence to the first game as there were no past game patters to go off of and for mafia "I'm trying to figure out the game" posts were a lot more acceptable until later in that game.

I knew after a couple of days that I had played in a suspicious manner, after being the most vocal about wanting to play in the second game. My strategy was that I was killed on the first day in the first game because I cam in guns a blazin, hunting for scum.

So I figured this game the way to stay alive a bit longer was to lay low at first, but not be one of those bottom 5 guys with 3 posts of "this game is crazy!".

Then as the game wore on I realized I'm a blabber mouth and can't play that way, so I kind of gave up and started posting my thoughts all the time. The only thing that kept me alive this long was legitimate innocence as a towns person. You post as much as I do and go as hard as I did at people and your mafia? There's no way you don't eventually slip up or be shown to be aligned with others by posting/voting patterns.

Nothing I said/did really aligned with anyone else, so even if I was a little suspicious, most people probably knew I was town.

Then the CrazyBaconLegs thing happened, and I became a huge centerpiece of the game after first becoming a target, then seeing an opportunity for my death to benefit us more than my input. Funny thing is, if we followed through with my lynching, it would have been way worse for us then just hitting CBL like we did.

Because then we would have had my death, then the next day of an automatic CBL death and we'd be way behind and starting fresh.