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		|  05-25-2014, 05:42 PM | #41 |  
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					Originally Posted by OzSome  As I recall Doug Gilmour was demanding more money from the Flames but Risebrough wouldn't budge. Then Risebrough told him not to even bother showing up. The next thing we know Gilmour was traded to Toronto for some garbage players. Not even sure why Risebrough was not willing to give Gilmour what he asked for. I hated Risebrough after that.
 I could be wrong though but that's how I recall what happens.
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 That's how I remember it too.  I always thought Gilmour should have been captain and assumed Riser had some kind of grudge not related to G.'s play as a Flame.
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		|  05-25-2014, 05:49 PM | #42 |  
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		|  05-25-2014, 05:50 PM | #43 |  
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					Originally Posted by Dion  Glen Sather - After Gretzky scored in overtime of game 2 of the division finals in 1988, Sather turned towards Flames fans and gave them the "#### you" fist pump. An arrogant SOB! |  
Was at that game. Right on line to see the half net Vernon gave him...  
Had to watch that goal for about the next 10 years nnow the opening of HNIC. Not a fond memory
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		|  05-25-2014, 05:55 PM | #44 |  
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					Originally Posted by Rick M.  That's how I remember it too.  I always thought Gilmour should have been captain and assumed Riser had some kind of grudge not related to G.'s play as a Flame. |  
The way I remember it Gilmour was up for salary arbitration and lost. He felt it was fixed as the salary arbitrator, the night before the arbitration, sat with Riser during the game. I'd feel like I'd been treated unfairly too.
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		|  05-25-2014, 06:13 PM | #46 |  
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			Sure so Risebrough had won. He didn't have to do anything. Gilmour would have sulked a bit but then settled down. Riser escalated it.
		 
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		|  05-25-2014, 06:25 PM | #47 |  
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					Originally Posted by GirlySports  Sure so Risebrough had won. He didn't have to do anything. Gilmour would have sulked a bit but then settled down. Riser escalated it. |  
I agree. I was sure Riserbrough had some kind of vendetta with Gilmour. He was also trying to show his team that he is the boss. I like Risebrough as a player but hated him as a GM.
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		|  05-25-2014, 07:03 PM | #48 |  
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					Originally Posted by OzSome  I agree. I was sure Riserbrough had some kind of vendetta with Gilmour. He was also trying to show his team that he is the boss. I like Risebrough as a player but hated him as a GM. |  
Riser said he disliked Gilmour and he took everything personally.  
He also said he learned from that, what an ass.  
Flames played hardball with all their players.
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			Bertuzzi. I put my hate aside (barely) while he played for the Flames. But I can't forget or forgive the Steve Moore incident.
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		|  05-25-2014, 10:19 PM | #50 |  
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			Grunge against Cliff F for trading Hull. You could of got Ramage and Wamsley for draft picks and something else. Then whoever was the GM (Coates?) that let St.Louis walk for nothing. Two hall of famers that could of changed the direction of this franchise thru the 90's and up till today.
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		|  05-25-2014, 10:40 PM | #51 |  
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			Denis Morel....that one was clearly in the net in 1990.
 Kelly Hrudey and his stupid black pads that disguised the puck.
 
 Robert Reichel...that was a wide open net, his head was in Germany. idiot.
 
 Peter Forsberg. Would be injured all year than light the Flames up for 5 points and go back on IR.
 
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		|  05-25-2014, 11:39 PM | #52 |  
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					Originally Posted by KenHouston  Grunge against Cliff F for trading Hull. You could of got Ramage and Wamsley for draft picks and something else. Then whoever was the GM (Coates?) that let St.Louis walk for nothing. Two hall of famers that could of changed the direction of this franchise thru the 90's and up till today. |  
Craig Button, he was an idiot too.
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		|  05-25-2014, 11:50 PM | #53 |  
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					Originally Posted by N-E-B  Don't know if this is more of a grudge or a pet peeve, but I can't stand when people don't cheer for their hometown team. I have no problem with someone cheering for Edmonton or Vancouver if you're from those places, but if you're born and raised in Calgary, why would you not cheer for the Flames? People do this all the time. People wouldn't dare cheer for another country in international play, and I wish the same principle applied for cities. It just rots me. Support your hometown! |  
So you are saying I should be a Leafs fan? F that.
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		|  05-25-2014, 11:50 PM | #54 |  
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			Mike Ribiero. I hate that little rat faced puke!
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					Originally Posted by N-E-B  Don't know if this is more of a grudge or a pet peeve, but I can't stand when people don't cheer for their hometown team. I have no problem with someone cheering for Edmonton or Vancouver if you're from those places, but if you're born and raised in Calgary, why would you not cheer for the Flames? People do this all the time. People wouldn't dare cheer for another country in international play, and I wish the same principle applied for cities. It just rots me. Support your hometown! |  
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		|  05-26-2014, 12:03 AM | #56 |  
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			Marty St. Louis for many valid reasonseverything related to the Vancouver Canucks
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		|  05-26-2014, 12:12 AM | #57 |  
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					Originally Posted by N-E-B  Don't know if this is more of a grudge or a pet peeve, but I can't stand when people don't cheer for their hometown team. I have no problem with someone cheering for Edmonton or Vancouver if you're from those places, but if you're born and raised in Calgary, why would you not cheer for the Flames? People do this all the time. People wouldn't dare cheer for another country in international play, and I wish the same principle applied for cities. It just rots me. Support your hometown! |  
That is quite literally the stupidest thing I've read today. Now granted "today" is only seven minutes old, but your gripe is idiotic.
 
I've hated the Oilers for as long as I can remember. Steve Smith was my favorite player until I was like 12 (wore #5 in minor hockey), only because of '86. I am not some clueless dope who's only going to switch my allegiances because of where I grew up. Sorry, but that type of person is not what I would consider to be a true sports fan.
 
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		|  05-26-2014, 12:20 AM | #58 |  
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			Aside from those already mentioned - cam janssen. I remember his flying elbow to rookie Prust's jaw back in '08 or  '09. Prust was eating through a straw for a month. Next few games he got the better of Sarich and Roy(?) I think as well. Running around like a complete goof. One of the dirtiest players out there.  
Couldn't find a video of the elbow, but I did find this revenge gif, which made me smile: 
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		|  05-26-2014, 12:20 AM | #59 |  
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			The Phoenix Coyotes. So happy they didn't make the playoffs!
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		|  05-26-2014, 12:24 AM | #60 |  
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					Originally Posted by KenHouston  Grunge against Cliff F for trading Hull. You could of got Ramage and Wamsley for draft picks and something else. Then whoever was the GM (Coates?) that let St.Louis walk for nothing. Two hall of famers that could of changed the direction of this franchise thru the 90's and up till today. |  
Incorrectly using "of" rather than "have"...     
But in all seriousness, Healey.  In 2004 against the Red Wings he was unbearable.  His love of Curtis Joseph blinded him to anything Calgary was doing.  It was as if he felt that the Flames should just roll over for his buddy.  "Who is this Kiprusoff guy?  Doesn't he know not to show up CuJo??"
 
From a Flames perspective, I'll go with Cale Hulse.  I've met him once and he was a great guy, but... as a player?  Drove me nuts.  If there was an inopportune time to take a penalty (and a stupid one at that) he'd find a way.  Kind of a Young Guns era Bourque I guess.
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