CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Woah look at this list from HD. I don't think he is Parker, no way he would call out his 3 buddies.

You realize you are on his list right?

[dissentowner]

We could go CC first instead and I could night action HD. I am just trying to set a record of unvoting in one day.

[DropIt]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Woah look at this list from HD. I don't think he is Parker, no way he would call out his 3 buddies.

Good point, it is unlikely he is Parker mafia. He could still be Barrow I guess... his feuds followed by deaths were always a bit suspicious to me.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

You realize you are on his list right?

You bet, only me and kermit are on that list.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GGG

Since we have a while before we lynch Agulati I figure I would revisit my earlier thoughts on behaviour around what happened

Dsal - poster once immediately after reveal and not again
Agulati - posted once immediately after reveal and not again
Legoman - didnt discuss vig, Stombad also suspects
Activestick - Didnt discuss vig
CBL - didnt discuss Vig
UCB - didnt discuss Vig
Oling - didnt discuss vig

The following didn't post
Aneas - posted shortly after card flip
Baxter Renagade - generally inactive
Flameswin
Dropit

To me this behaviour of not getting involved doesn't make too much sense. A critical event happened in the game you think you would post about it. If someone wants to you could look at their other activity on CP around that day to see if it matches with generally being inactive or just inactive in the mafia thread.

The most suspicious name on this list for me is Baxter Renegade. He was very inactive early in the game, was inactive post Vig reveal, and became active as HmmHmmCamo was being voted out after being challanged by Flameswin as playing like a newbie mafia member.

Agulati is more interesting because of his slip. And I think we have to lynch him for it as the trust can never come back.

Activestick is interesting, here is where I think our detective can be of use. Because I think either Strombad is mafia or Activestick is. I think a decent mafia strategy would be to go after one guy and focus on him and if the town lynches them and they flip player your defense can just be you were wrong, the odds weren't in your flavour. In the mean time because of the lack of discussion of other people you wouldn't leave a trail.

Also MmmMmmCamo noticed the wierd posting relationship between HG and Strombad where they appear to be distancing themselves from eachother intentionally. Not sure if anything is actually there but if Strombad flipped Mafia, HG would be my next target. So if I were the detective I would investigate Strombad and then proceed from there. Legoman also seems to be following a similar strategy to Strombad in just pushing to get Completely out.

So my top suspects are:
BaxterRenegade
Activestick
Strombad and Legoman (If active flips town)

Originally Posted by bizaro86

Yeah, realistically today is over, and since we'll get more information with the cardflips, I'm not sure a bunch of speculation makes much sense.

I do think GGGs post about the vig discussion is interesting, and think it might be worth follow up. He provided a short list of suspects, which may be worth a bit of research.

Bizaro was happy following this post from GGG, so would it be safe to say the final Parker member is not on it?

[Hockeyguy15]

That would leave me, kermit/saillias, CC, or completely?

[dissentowner]

Lets go CC.
Unvote
Vote: CaptainCrunch

[Baxter Renegade]

We need a perfect run to win this...

So, If we get Parker (Likely Saillias due to Kermits rage quit, Kermit doesn't leave like this if he's town, its a collosal dick move if he does) in the Lynch, I'll save Diss... This will probably be futile as I will get night killed by Barrow.

Diss can investigate night 6 and day 7 will look something like this (in theory):

Saillias (Kermit) - Parker Mafia, Lynched day 6
Baxter Renegade - Doctor, Night killed by Barrow night 6

Day 7: 3 Barrow & 9 Town remain (3 Barrow & 4 town unknown):
dissentowner (Cop)
ineedanother (Vigilante)
Rathji (Town)
strombad (Town)
Lego Man (Town)
Hockeyguy15 (?)
flameswin (?)
HalifaxDrunk (?)
undercoverbrother (?)
CaptainCrunch (?)
Completely (?)
DropIt (?)

One of the above ?'s will become known due to the night 6 investigation . Hopefully it's a Barrow so he will be easily lynched... That will leave 6 unknowns going into night 7 (4 town, 2 Barrow).

Diss dies night 7 so he wont be able to share that nights investigation.

Day 8 should have ineedanother (Vigilante), Rathji (Town), strombad (Town), Lego Man (Town) plus 4 unknown town and 2 Barrow...

I feel the lists you guys are putting up have some traction. 8 town vs 2 mafia going into Day 8 gives us some wiggle room which I feel we don't really need...

Assuming we get Parker lynched, town is going to take this.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Well both CC and HD have been high suspects for awhile. Neither posts a bunch yet fall through the cracks. I would be on board with either one if we want to hold off on saillias.

Huh? I'm one of the more active players in this game, I've consistently shown that I'm trying to find mafia.

I've stuck to one guy with highly suspicious behavior for the last three games.

But keep playing with the blinders on buddy.

I put in that's the hammer on yesterdays vote because at the point that the hammer hits all posting is supposed to stop so I put in a stop point.

Right now the mafia is probably laughing at you guys because this game seems to be all about flailing and bad guesses.

[CaptainCrunch]

three days not games

[Lego Man]

NOW you guys are suspicious of Completely.

WHaT a SuRprIsE!

I believe that Baxter is telling the truth; he is the doctor. If he isn't, then real Doctor - please expose yourself and strengthen our odds in our lynch today.

I am very & highly suspicious of:
Completely (entire game - especially the way he didn't aggressively react to me random target, which I believe a townie would have)
DropIt (very suspicious of all game, made this known before)
CaptainCrunch (the way he's reacted to the Cop reveal has sealed it for me here)
HalifaxDrunk (very suspicious of all game, made this known before, and backed off after reaction to my accusation)

HD to me is the least likely to be mafia, and I have no clue whom would replace him on that list anymore. Undercoverbrother and Hockeyguy15 give me very townie vibes - if they are Mafia... well then well played. flameswin and Saillias remain...

You see this CaptainCrunch? If I flip heads I vote Completely.



F! Let's try again.



There we go. Miss you CaptainCrunch.

Vote: Completely

[jayswin]

K, let's make sure if we're going with this plan that we're all on the same page. CaptainCrunch or Completely first?

unvote

[Baxter Renegade]

OK, If were not Lynching Saillias, are we investigating him? I'm sure he's the final Parker mafia...

I'm down with whatever you cats want to do.

[Lego Man]

I've just reread todays activity. I've decided flameswin is town, based on his comment on Completely's post 1984. It isn't something that Mafia would want attention brought towards, especially while the two children were bickering.

Notice the vote count before the cop reveal today:

Hasn’t Voted (7): strombad, flameswin, Baxter Renegade, ineedanother, Lego Man, undercoverbrother, Completely

Voting:
Lego Man (4): CaptainCrunch, saillias, HalifaxDrunk, DropIt
dissentowner (1): Hockeyguy15
saillias (1): dissentowner
CaptainCrunch (1): Rathji

I'm very confident that between Completely, and the four posters who decided to get the Lego train rolling (so happy I chose that username btw)... we have our scum.

The only thing that irks me still is I don't know if a Mafia member would have so stubbornly focused on one person all game... like CC did to me. It just doesn't strike me as how a Mafia member would carry themselves - mafia members never ABSOLUTELY F'N GUARANTEE accuse someone of being mafia. It's always false suspicions and detective work they hide behind.

I think the remaining Mafia members are:

Completely
DropIt
HalifaxDrunk
saillias

And less likely:

Completely
DropIt
CaptainCrunch
HalifaxDrunk

or

Completely
DropIt
saillias
CaptainCrunch

[Lego Man]

I say we protect dissentower, investigate Saillias and vote for Completely.

[Lego Man]

Actually, dissentower should randomly chose someone on my list (Completely, DropIt, HalifaxDrunk, saillias).

That way we the person we investigate won't end up killed by Mafia at night.

[Completely]

Lego i dont find a RNG very threatening. There's usually more important things going on, besides i don't think i have ever even posted aggressively. Would you have rather me talk out whole paragraphs in caps and an over use in exclamation marks?

[Completely]

Originally Posted by Completely

Lego i dont find a RNG very threatening. There's usually more important things going on, besides i don't think i have ever even posted aggressively. Would you have rather me talk out whole paragraphs in caps and an over use in exclamation marks?

Type not talk.

[strombad]

I'm pretty OK with doing Saillias. The whole sudden kermit dropout thing was a bit strange to me, so I'm cool with knocking off a "likely", though I still have some reservations about Baxter. CBL had pretty comprehensive and well thought out lists (I thought so at least) and him flipping town kind of shores that up for me (and, quite frankly, places a little bit of heat on flameswin, isn't that the second townie he's cheered out the door?).

Regardless, I'll make my vote for now.

Since undercover asked, the reason why I "shut up" was because I've been travelling for the past month. Wifi was a little hard to come by over the past 2 weeks, so it's been spotty at best. Home tomorrow though, so I'll be sure to go over everything more thoroughly. Anyways,

Vote:
Saillias

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by saillias

Your case against him centers around the fact that he lynched a mobster. I don't know it seems like you're overthinking things. Yes, CC lynched starseed. (He wasn't the hammer though, that was DropIt.) In 5 lynches the town has hit 4 townspeople. If you include the vigilante kill that's a 5/6 "suicide" rate. You want to attack someone for the only success we've generated?

My case against him at this point centers around the fact that he clearly has some kind of link with Completely, and they seem to want to push each others agendas.

His only real contribution has been to randomly throw accusations around so it seems like he is doing something, and focuses on those who bring attention his way.

These are not town actions.