05-10-2014, 10:50 AM
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Brutal. Speedy recovery to the members.
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05-10-2014, 11:53 AM
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Why is it always the RCMP getting shot at? Are the people in smaller towns just more crazy?
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05-10-2014, 12:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2
Why is it always the RCMP getting shot at? Are the people in smaller towns just more crazy?
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I think people in small towns are just more armed. Hopefully the officers recover quickly.
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05-10-2014, 12:07 PM
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Because the RCMP are the police force outside of the cities in AB. And since the RCMP are a national force, when some of them get shot at, it gets national attention.
People that shoot at police in cities are shooting at a city police force.
Or am I really missing something in your comment...
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05-10-2014, 12:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot25
Because the RCMP are the police force outside of the cities in AB. And since the RCMP are a national force, when some of them get shot at, it gets national attention.
People that shoot at police in cities are shooting at a city police force.
Or am I really missing something in your comment...
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When's the last time a police officer got shot at in Calgary? Off the top of my head I cant think of one, it seems much more rare.
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05-10-2014, 12:13 PM
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Yeah, I'm just trying to find some stats re: rural vs urban.
Also curious though if we hear about rural shootings because of some of the reasons I said. I.e. there may be fewer (don't know, looking up), but b/c national police force, a shooting in a random small town is so unexpected, that we hear about them more.
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05-10-2014, 12:45 PM
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Shooting at the police ALWAYS makes the news. I don't recall the last time someone in Calgary shot at the police. Seems like a yearly occurrence with the RCMP in Alberta.
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05-10-2014, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RedHot25
Yeah, I'm just trying to find some stats re: rural vs urban.
Also curious though if we hear about rural shootings because of some of the reasons I said. I.e. there may be fewer (don't know, looking up), but b/c national police force, a shooting in a random small town is so unexpected, that we hear about them more.
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100% false. Any police officer getting shot will garner some sort of national attention. There was also 3 members injured which is more significant news wise than 1 getting injured.
Rural areas tend to have a higher gun ownership rate than that of their city counterparts. Throw in what I call the "recluse" factor where certain individuals seek out very remote villages to live in to get away from society and the government and you have your reasons why are more police shootings in remote or rural areas.
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05-10-2014, 12:53 PM
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Yeah, fair enough point re: shootings making the news, sorry - was up late and have not had my coffee yet.
The point could very well be true, I guess I'm just curious stats wise is all. (that point more shootings at police officers in rural areas than in urban).
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05-10-2014, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by RedHot25
Yeah, fair enough point re: shootings making the news, sorry - was up late and have not had my coffee yet.
The point could very well be true, I guess I'm just curious stats wise is all. (that point more shootings at police officers in rural areas than in urban).
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Shouldn't have stated my points so aggressively either, sorry about that. In rural areas members will quite often work alone, whereas in a city there may be 100 or more working so from an officer safety standpoint it may be more risky to work a small town. Also from my experience I've found that people who live in cities, even criminals, genuinely like living there and will still adhere to social boundaries whereas in rural or remote places there is a bit more of a cavalier attitude. Now, I will say that some of the best experiences I've ever had in my life was living and working in the north. The people were great and there was a tonne of stuff to do if you got out there to do it so I'm not trying to say all people from small towns are gun toting lunatics.
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05-10-2014, 01:11 PM
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No, no worries, like I said just musing this morning without a complete thought...or more caffeine. Also feeling a bit like a dummy as you are right, pretty much any police shooting (either way - police at suspect, suspect at police) is reported nationally.
Anyway, I understand re: cultural differences btwn rural and urban, for lack of better words, that you are alluding to. I grew up in rural Alberta, and now have lived in both of its major cities. But still, I'm curious. Although not curious enough to do anything more than going to the Juristat website (not sure Stats Can even keeps track of this type of thing). http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-x/index-eng.htm
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05-10-2014, 04:14 PM
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I've been hearing that this was a suicide. Does anyone know the full story yet? Is it out?
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05-10-2014, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Temporary_User
I've been hearing that this was a suicide. Does anyone know the full story yet? Is it out?
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Updated the OP and this is from the article, not sure of its accuracy.
"The man driving the black truck was killed in the confrontation, McGinnis said."
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05-10-2014, 04:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2
Why is it always the RCMP getting shot at? Are the people in smaller towns just more crazy?
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really? people are equally crazy everywhere
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05-10-2014, 04:51 PM
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St Paul...what a crap hole town. My wife used to live there and I spent many weekends up there with her. Hated that place. Dirty, ugly...etc. That said, I'm sure something like this was a big surprise to the residents. That town has gone through some crazy stuff though, like the guy who a year and a half ago drove his vehicle through a school wall killing a young child.
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05-10-2014, 05:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
really? people are equally crazy everywhere
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Then what's the problem then in smaller towns?
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05-10-2014, 05:44 PM
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Apparently he went to a church and killed a priest beforehand.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ings-1.2638520
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05-12-2014, 12:08 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2
Then what's the problem then in smaller towns?
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problem with what? you really want to go there with some of the stuff that has happened in Calgary and Edmonton lately
crazy people are everywhere
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05-12-2014, 12:26 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dino7c
problem with what?
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The problem with people shooting at RCMP. You know, like I've already mentioned in this thread...
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