Craig's List 2014 Prospects

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by indes

Sam Bennet 91pts in 57 games (1.6PPG)
Leon Draisatl 105pts in 64 games (1.64PPG)
Michael Dal Colle 95pts in 67 games (1.42PPG)

The more research I do the happier I am with either Bennet or Draisatl, both seem to be great talents with #1C potential


Edit: Beaten, damn you Cody!!

Playoffs:

Sam Bennett - 9pts in 7 games
Leon Draisaitl - 5pts in 5 games
Michael Dal Colle - 20pts in 12 games

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by timbit

Just a hunch but think Draisaitl will be taken 1 or 2.

Better chance of Ekblad/Reinhart/Bennett if that's the case.

Hope that happens. If not, welcome to the Flames Leon.

[sureLoss]

Mike Morreale @mikemorrealeNHL
Nikolaj Ehlers (Halifax), Sam Bennett (Kingston), Sam Reinhart (Kootenay) CHL Prospect of the Yr nominees. Winner announced 5-24 in London

[dammage79]

Why do I think FLA will trade down to take Ehlers even @ pick 4? I really do think trading up with FLA could be a real good possibility. An extra asset or two plus Ehlers? I don't even think youd need to sell tallon on the deal.

I get this feeling the Ehlers is going to be a massive sleeper pick. Or the Steal of this years draft.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by nik-

Great in terms of this draft or great in terms of what a 1st overall should be? I take him 1st in this draft personally. If he's there at 4 for us, I'll do backflips.

I probably take Eklbad 1st, Reinhart 2nd - so good value for this draft. I think this draft is relatively weak at the top end as I don't view any of the top 4 of being strong 1st overall picks.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Why do I think FLA will trade down to take Ehlers even @ pick 4? I really do think trading up with FLA could be a real good possibility. An extra asset or two plus Ehlers? I don't even think youd need to sell tallon on the deal.

I get this feeling the Ehlers is going to be a massive sleeper pick. Or the Steal of this years draft.

There's definitely a lot to like about Ehlers. Much grittier than people tend to give him credit for, in the sense that he never shies away from tough areas and isn't a perimeter player. Really high/consistent compete level and incredible hands/speed/vision.

I'm interested to see his height/weight at the combine, as the most recent figures I can recall have him up to 6 feet, 176lbs from 5'11, 162-65lbs at the beginning of the season. Size concerns could be somewhat overblown.

Almost certainly not a guy Flames would look at at 4 with three higher-end centers on the board, but damn. If they had pick 5/6/7 I would be beating the drum for Ehlers as well.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Don't think we draft Ehlers at #4 at all.

If they Flames were drafting a winger this draft, it would be best to draft Dal Colle, more size, and more of a sniper.

We already have an Ehlers in Johnny and Sven.

[FlamesAddiction]

Hypothetical situation, but what if Ekblad was available at #4 and Tampa decided that they have a lot of depth when it comes to young offensive players but really need to draft by position and want defense, would you trade the 4th this year for Drouin?

[saXon]

Originally Posted by Da_Chief

Reinhart is still #1 prospect in my eyes in this draft. If we get him at 4th it'll be a steal.

Quite frankly, anyone of Ekblad, Reinhart, Bennett, or Draisaitl will be a steal at #4.

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Hypothetical situation, but what if Ekblad was available at #4 and Tampa decided that they have a lot of depth when it comes to young offensive players but really need to draft by position and want defense, would you trade the 4th this year for Drouin?

No way they would do that, but of course we would. If it was a straight up trade, a definite yes from this Flames' fan. The Lightning would be stupid to do that trade though.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Hypothetical situation, but what if Ekblad was available at #4 and Tampa decided that they have a lot of depth when it comes to young offensive players but really need to draft by position and want defense, would you trade the 4th this year for Drouin?

They passed on Jones for Drouin, I don't see why they would possibly trade Drouin for Ekblad.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

I probably take Eklbad 1st, Reinhart 2nd - so good value for this draft. I think this draft is relatively weak at the top end as I don't view any of the top 4 of being strong 1st overall picks.

Any particular reason you feel this way? I think at the very least Reinhart projects to be an elite center, if not Bennett and Draisaitl as well.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by codynw

I know points don't tell the whole story, but Reinhart put up 105 points in 60 games (1.75PPG) this year. For comparisons, here's the draft year totals of the last few 1st overall picks.

MacKinnon - 75 points in 40 games (1.70PPG)
Yakupov - 69 points in 42 games (1.64PPG)
Nugent-Hopkins - 106 in 69 games (1.53PPG)
Hall - 106 in 57 games (1.85PPG)
Tavares - 54 in 32 games (1.69PPG)

So, based on points and the fact that Reinhart has a very high hockey IQ and is said to be very responsible defensively, why is he not "good value for a 1st overall pick"?

Well he's a slower skater than MacKinnon, Hall and Yakupov at least. Significantly slower than several of them.

Tavares's numbers should be taken with a grain of salt as he actually put up 118 in 59 the year before (2.00 PPG) and 134 in 67 the year before that (2.00 PPG) which are insane for a 15/16 year old and blow away everyone else comparable at those ages. Tavares was obviously way ahead of anyone in this draft.

Reinhart just lacks that elite attribute outside of his hockey sense and vision. He's not a speedster, he's not strong, doesn't have the shot of some other prospects. Fairly similar to RNH in fact. Average sized guy with great hockey sense and vision. Are the Oilers ecstatic with RNH at #1? Meh.

He's a fine prospect but I wouldn't be thrilled to take him #1 this year IMO. Love him at #4 though

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Well he's a slower skater than MacKinnon, Hall and Yakupov at least. Significantly slower than several of them.

Tavares's numbers should be taken with a grain of salt as he actually put up 118 in 59 the year before (2.00 PPG) and 134 in 67 the year before that (2.00 PPG) which are insane for a 15/16 year old and blow away everyone else comparable at those ages. Tavares was obviously way ahead of anyone in this draft.

Reinhart just lacks that elite attribute outside of his hockey sense and vision. He's not a speedster, he's not strong, doesn't have the shot of some other prospects. Fairly similar to RNH in fact. Average sized guy with great hockey sense and vision. Are the Oilers ecstatic with RNH at #1? Meh.

He's a fine prospect but I wouldn't be thrilled to take him #1 this year IMO. Love him at #4 though

I agree, he doesn't really do anything at that exceptional level, but everything is just a little below that. Very similar to Monahan in that regard. The main difference between the two is that Reinhart is a better passer. Otherwise they are very close.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Why do I think FLA will trade down to take Ehlers even @ pick 4? I really do think trading up with FLA could be a real good possibility. An extra asset or two plus Ehlers? I don't even think youd need to sell tallon on the deal.

I get this feeling the Ehlers is going to be a massive sleeper pick. Or the Steal of this years draft.

Ehlers has game breaker written all over him.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Ehlers has game breaker written all over him.

If the Sams are gone, that's the guy I am hoping the Flames take for the same reasons.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by prizefighterinferno

There's definitely a lot to like about Ehlers. Much grittier than people tend to give him credit for, in the sense that he never shies away from tough areas and isn't a perimeter player. Really high/consistent compete level and incredible hands/speed/vision.

I'm interested to see his height/weight at the combine, as the most recent figures I can recall have him up to 6 feet, 176lbs from 5'11, 162-65lbs at the beginning of the season. Size concerns could be somewhat overblown.

Almost certainly not a guy Flames would look at at 4 with three higher-end centers on the board, but damn. If they had pick 5/6/7 I would be beating the drum for Ehlers as well.

Me too. I'd be exploring what we need to give up to acquire pick #5 in addition to our 4th.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Rick M.

Me too. I'd be exploring what we need to give up to acquire pick #5 in addition to our 4th.

To the Flames: NYI 1 + G. Reinhart
To the Isles: 2 (yes, 2!) Bags of Magic Beans

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Well he's a slower skater than MacKinnon, Hall and Yakupov at least. Significantly slower than several of them.

Tavares's numbers should be taken with a grain of salt as he actually put up 118 in 59 the year before (2.00 PPG) and 134 in 67 the year before that (2.00 PPG) which are insane for a 15/16 year old and blow away everyone else comparable at those ages. Tavares was obviously way ahead of anyone in this draft.

Reinhart just lacks that elite attribute outside of his hockey sense and vision. He's not a speedster, he's not strong, doesn't have the shot of some other prospects. Fairly similar to RNH in fact. Average sized guy with great hockey sense and vision. Are the Oilers ecstatic with RNH at #1? Meh.

He's a fine prospect but I wouldn't be thrilled to take him #1 this year IMO. Love him at #4 though

RNH isn't a fair comparison because the Oilers ruined him. He should be much better than he is. Also 17 year old Reinhart is the exact same height and weight as 21 year old RNH so size isn't really an issue.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by VladtheImpaler

To the Flames: NYI 1 + G. Reinhart
To the Isles: 2 (yes, 2!) Bags of Magic Beans

I like it! You clearly are Assistant General Manager material.