CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[Hockeyguy15]

At this point I think the biggest red flags for me are transplant, activeStick and SP.

transplant and activeStick have been called out by people that are now dead, as well as bizaro trying to deflect attention off of them.

SP seems to agree with bizaro a lot, and there are a few instances of the two of them posting and disappearing at the same time.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Why didn't it make sense that he was mafia?

The vote was just too lopsided for me. I would have expected one faction of the mafia to try and pull the vote away from him if he was part of their faction. There was NO real support to vote anyone else.

I pulled my vote from him to Baxter Renegade because I think both him and transplant99 in particular are displaying behaviour of being called out, posting and then drifting back to the shadows.

Either of them just seem to be sitting on the edge of the conversation just too much for me. Letting us run around like chickens with our head cut off.

I also think HG15 might be running interference for the mafia. He's posting like crazy, always suspicious and not really looking deeply at the people here and what they're saying.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I also think HG15 might be running interference for the mafia. He's posting like crazy, always suspicious and not really looking deeply at the people here and what they're saying.

Examples?

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Examples?

How many people have you pointed fingers at?

[starseed]

I have twice suspected kermit, and he was twice pseudo-vindicated by flips. He is very low on my radar at this point.

I am going to look up HG's post about the link between bizarro and tranny/activestick.

[HalifaxDrunk]

Yay Bizaro is down. 1 Mafia out 7 to go.

starseed is still my #1 suspect right now.

Originally Posted by starseed

With bizaro targeting HD, I think we can safely assume he isn't in the first mafia faction, but could still be in the second. However, I get the feeling that each side would look for the cop/doctor or the other mafia rather than target people that they think are a threat. So I think HD drops off my radar. .

I get your reasoning for the first sentence; I could be in the Barrow Mafia. I’m not, but I concede the point that I could be. After that you lose me. Why would Barrow care if they killed either a townie or a Parker Mafia member? Wouldn’t they be just as happy as us Townies? Barrow Mafia now has more members than Parker kinda putting them in the lead. With this in mind I think you are in Barrow Mafia so want our interactions do die down and cool any heat your way. How can you differentiate between the cop/doctor and a threat? You can’t, so I don’t like your reasoning.

Originally Posted by starseed

I think anyone who dropped off the agulati lynch bandwagon should be lower priority right now. I will also agree that CBL's shortlist of people who voted twice to lynch a known townie is something positive to work off of. (it wont have all the mafia, but probably a good number) .

You tried to justify keeping your vote for agulati before the hammer (post #968). This screams of maintaining the hammer but putting up an early defense to fall back on. This is part of that defense.

Originally Posted by starseed

As for my being supportive of the ineedanother vote block idea - I think it makes sense going forward if ineedanother is more active, which I dont think he was much during the last day. I think today our best bet is to get ineedanother to pick from a logical list of candidates. Even though it failed on day one, it's still good strategy going forward. This is my first time playing mafia, so maybe it is known to be a bad strategy, but it just makes sense to me.

It makes total sense for a Mafia member to be in favour of following a blind vote. He has no further knowledge so the odds are he will pick either a Townie or Parker member. That’s 19 of 23 people he can randomly choose, those odds would be OK with a Barrow member. If he does happen to hit one of you then you have to worry about putting up a fight. 82.6% chance he selects someone not part of your inner 4 is GREAT odds for you. Heck the odds are in favor of Parker as well, there is only a 13% chance he will pick one of them.

Vote: starseed

There has been quite a few good posts in the last couple hours. I will take it all into consideration but until something more concrete appears I will stand by my vote.

* Update since I started typing this out. Damn it takes a long time to type when you have to worry about how everything you say can be taken.

Originally Posted by starseed

I have twice suspected kermit, and he was twice pseudo-vindicated by flips. He is very low on my radar at this point.

I am going to look up HG's post about the link between bizarro and tranny/activestick.

If the vote happens to be either tranny/activestick and they are Mafia, I guarantee they will be part of Parker. Same for kermit, if he does flip up Mafia it will no doubt be Barrow.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by kermitology

How many people have you pointed fingers at?

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

-snipped-
I feel that kermit isn't really adding much with his posts.
bizaro is offering some insight but not full out hunting mafia
ineedanother is posting but not adding much
Timbo has 3 posts but they seem off to me
SP has been posting, but not contributing

There are also a few posters who mention mafia numbers and potential strategy/mind sets with a very low post count.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Another thing I have noticed is agulati, GP_Matt, SP, and Aeneas were all early to start calling people mafia.

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Here is where I am at...

Strombad and CC voted for me, now out of the two of them the only thing that stuck out to me was that CC commented early on about mafia strategy. At the moment I tend to believe that both are townies, but I could be wrong and it was a failed attempt at getting votes rolling my way.

Timbo, Delgar, Devo, Aeneas, DropIt, Bizaro all 'defended' me I guess you could say. Now being a vocal player I don't feel like it would be in the mafia's best interest to defend me. If anything it would have been best for them to kind of let the vote against me happen naturally so they can stay out of the spot light.

hmmhmmcamo said vote Timbo and if he is mafia, vote for me. Timbo was early to be weary of voting for me so I don't believe he is mafia at this time.

HD did that thing where he looks like he is giving insight but he kind of just sits on the fence. This seems to me like something mafia would do, because it makes it look like they are engaged but they really don't offer up anything new. He also seems to mention mafia a lot in his posts.

SP got kind of defensive when I called him out.

Then the stuff from today.

[Hockeyguy15]

Oh and there were more posts that I kept on you kermit, but I thought I would save space and not include those since you were on the original list.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by strombad

Posts prior to this comment: 5 in 3 days
Posts since this comment: 5 in 5 days

Not only has his posting level gone down, but he never voted during the first lynching, and was a very late vote for Agulati (didn't want to be seen "leading" the charge?) and has thus far targeted only people that have flipped town.

Come on guys, we have to get a mafia, and he IS one, I KNOW it. You will NOT be disappointed with this move.

I've seen a couple people start to list me as "suspect", which is fine, but think about it. If I'm a townsperson targeting a known mafia, wouldn't it make sense to float my name out there?

Vote activestick, you'll feel better about yourselves.

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

So if we all vote Activestick and he flips as townie, you are happy to be killed next?

Originally Posted by strombad

Well sure, if I screwed up that badly then it's probably in the town's best interest, but I have extreme doubts about that ever being an issue.

I'll make this deal:
If activestick flips town, I won't say a single word against anyone who wants to campaign against me or in defence of myself.

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I can accept this.

Anyone else?

Originally Posted by Rathji

Of course I make my last post and then this exchange comes up while I am posting. I am entirely willing to switch to activestick at this point, as I think it further confirms my thoughts on tranny.

unvote
vote: activestick

I am willing to put my actions where my mouth is. I have said all along I think think those not posting/low post count are either mafia or bring nothing to the game as Town people.

The bottom posters are:

Oling_Roachinen
14
activeStick
11
Baxter Renegade
11
transplant99
9
Crazy Bacon Legs
9

I can support the vote for activestick, based on my exchange with Strombad.

vote: activestick

Originally Posted by kermitology

unvote
Vote: transplant99

this is a very interesting post.

[starseed]

Bizaro's post deflecting away from activestick and tranny is the best lead we have.

The more I look at bizaro's posts, the less it seems like he is mafia. I get the feeling that the second mafia group hit him with the intention of going after a townie with power.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

this is a very interesting post.

Extremely telling

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by starseed

Bizaro's post deflecting away from activestick and tranny is the best lead we have.

The more I look at bizaro's posts, the less it seems like he is mafia. I get the feeling that the second mafia group hit him with the intention of going after a townie with power.

Well, I think that is kind of obvious. He got killed by mafia because he was playing town too well. This is why people are staying inactive, or just not contributing, and need to die for it.

[Lego Man]

Vote: ActiveStick

This is the first vote I am confident in making.

My second choice is StreetPharmacist.

If AS ends up mafia, we have the next vote lined up too.

[ineedanother]

After reading through others thoughts today, I agree that activeStick seems most likely to be mafia right now. I haven't seen him defending himself much today.
I did not post much yesterday, as the hammer was quick to fall and my vote wasn't going to change the situation.
vote: activeStick

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by kermitology

I'm willing to change this as more information comes up, but I'm going back to my guy and voting for someone who's just sitting on the periphery only poking his head up when being called out.

Vote: Baxter Renegade

Originally Posted by kermitology

I'm on board for voting transplant99

Originally Posted by kermitology

unvote
Vote: transplant99

Originally Posted by kermitology

The vote was just too lopsided for me. I would have expected one faction of the mafia to try and pull the vote away from him if he was part of their faction. There was NO real support to vote anyone else.

I pulled my vote from him to Baxter Renegade because I think both him and transplant99 in particular are displaying behaviour of being called out, posting and then drifting back to the shadows.

Either of them just seem to be sitting on the edge of the conversation just too much for me. Letting us run around like chickens with our head cut off.

I also think HG15 might be running interference for the mafia. He's posting like crazy, always suspicious and not really looking deeply at the people here and what they're saying.

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

this is a very interesting post.

Let me summarize the context of that post.

[starseed]

Originally Posted by HalifaxDrunk

Yay Bizaro is down. 1 Mafia out 7 to go.

starseed is still my #1 suspect right now.



I get your reasoning for the first sentence; I could be in the Barrow Mafia. I’m not, but I concede the point that I could be. After that you lose me. Why would Barrow care if they killed either a townie or a Parker Mafia member? Wouldn’t they be just as happy as us Townies? Barrow Mafia now has more members than Parker kinda putting them in the lead. With this in mind I think you are in Barrow Mafia so want our interactions do die down and cool any heat your way. How can you differentiate between the cop/doctor and a threat? You can’t, so I don’t like your reasoning.



You tried to justify keeping your vote for agulati before the hammer (post #968). This screams of maintaining the hammer but putting up an early defense to fall back on. This is part of that defense.



It makes total sense for a Mafia member to be in favour of following a blind vote. He has no further knowledge so the odds are he will pick either a Townie or Parker member. That’s 19 of 23 people he can randomly choose, those odds would be OK with a Barrow member. If he does happen to hit one of you then you have to worry about putting up a fight. 82.6% chance he selects someone not part of your inner 4 is GREAT odds for you. Heck the odds are in favor of Parker as well, there is only a 13% chance he will pick one of them.

Vote: starseed

There has been quite a few good posts in the last couple hours. I will take it all into consideration but until something more concrete appears I will stand by my vote.

* Update since I started typing this out. Damn it takes a long time to type when you have to worry about how everything you say can be taken.



If the vote happens to be either tranny/activestick and they are Mafia, I guarantee they will be part of Parker. Same for kermit, if he does flip up Mafia it will no doubt be Barrow.

Your posts come off as if you are living up to your name

My reasoning was that you would probably not target, or convince the other mafia in your group to target, someone who you are receiving heat from, that is why I find it unlikely that you are from either mafia faction. I think the priorities of the mafia are clear right now - target townies with powers.

And yes, I should have revoked my vote for agulati. I started voting not necessarily with the intention of keeping it on him, but I wanted to see his response. His response was not good enough for me to pull back, and kermit's post about the avalanche of votes should have been enough... but I was suspecting kermit was trying to help pull the heat off of agulati as a fellow mafia. I was wrong twice about kermit, and that is why I facked up. (mind you, the first time was not really my fault as ineedanother killed Timbo, but I really thought Timbo was mafia and kermit was colluding with him)

[starseed]

Originally Posted by Rathji

Well, I think that is kind of obvious. He got killed by mafia because he was playing town too well. This is why people are staying inactive, or just not contributing, and need to die for it.

If the mafia are targeting the cop/doc/rb'er then we should all agree to be more active in hunting mafia, so that mafia cannot pick up on activity patterns. This will have the added benefit of having more info to fall back on after flips.

Since activestick is on that list of low post count, I will set my vote for him pending response before hammer.

Vote: activeStick

[starseed]

Originally Posted by starseed

Your posts come off as if you are living up to your name

I didnt mean to be offensive with that.

[HalifaxDrunk]

Originally Posted by starseed

I didnt mean to be offensive with that.

None taken, I'm just offended that you are part of the Barrow Mafia.

I picked my own username, and I live up to it.

[bizaro86]

-----Dead Post--------

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO <insert darth varder img here>

Death to those who cruelly ended me before my time!

Great game all - enjoy it - it ends all too soon for some!