Honestly if he is actually interested in getting help I wish him all the best. As someone who is attached to toronto I am glad the circus appears to be leaving town.
I love all the jokes, but at the end of the day alcohol abuse and drug addiction are medical issues. Leave of absence is the right thing to do, and he needs to admit his problem, vacate office, and stay out of the limelight while he gets treatment.
Too sad a story to laugh at for me and I'm a Ford hater from way back
Huh? Too sad? From a human being stand point, this is the best thing he's done since the whole fiasco started. He's dropping everything, including his political career and going into treatment.
Good on him if he's getting help for the right reasons, though I'm a little worried it's just timed this way because of the new leak and upcoming election. I guess we'll see, it is a start. Maybe he'll go for the 'wrong' reasons and still end up getting better, that's possible too.
Funny story with Bieber, haha.
Why does Ford thing he'll be a hit in Cali? Haha, he really thinks he's a celebrity. I would actually think California would be the worst thing for him. Chew him up like they do with 'reality stars' and he ends up back on drugs.
Is it really good for him though? The only reason he is "taking a break" is because another video emerged. It may all be lip service and in his head, he still might not have a problem. Hell, he only said he's stepping down due to an "alcohol problem". Apparently his use of crack cocaine isn't the issue hahah.
Anyway the guy is a mess. Hopefully he does in fact realize he has a big problem and gets real help.
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So I think its now fair to say he didn't just drunken stupor some crack, he's a full blown crack addict. Amazing that he could ever hold himself together in public. He really needs to resign because I think he's way too enabled as mayor and has too many scumbags and hangers on who will take advantage of him. He's still incredibly wealthy, retire somewhere nice and get better.
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At this point, the humane thing to do would be for people to just leave him alone and let him get through rehab, if he's in a facility and getting help then good for him, he's clearly more then a casual user, and he's certainly gone beyond that good time drinker to full blown lunatic.
If he looked in the mirror and decided to get help then good for him, leave him alone, let him get through it.
Of course the media smells blood in the water now, and they'll do anything to find him, and not only that pressure him til he falls off the wagon, he's their gravy train.
Personally the guy needs to walk into the sunset and leave public life.
If he re-enters the mayoral race at some point in the future, then I think the public deserves to know some basic details about his rehab: what facility, how long did he stay, etc. Until that point (which hopefully never comes), he should be given all the privacy he wants.
If he re-enters the mayoral race at some point in the future, then I think the public deserves to know some basic details about his rehab: what facility, how long did he stay, etc. Until that point (which hopefully never comes), he should be given all the privacy he wants.
This is a really interesting point and i'm still working through the positions on both sides of it.
I think the public will want to know, but are they entitled to the information? Do they really "deserve" to know?
I'm not sure they do.
Because Rob Ford voluntarily puts himself in the public eye by running, he is inviting the inquiry. However, he is certainly entitled to keep private details about the rehab, other than he attended. How that plays to the public is another question all together.
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If he re-enters the mayoral race at some point in the future, then I think the public deserves to know some basic details about his rehab: what facility, how long did he stay, etc. Until that point (which hopefully never comes), he should be given all the privacy he wants.
If he re-enters the race, that's a valid point. And chances are he would disclose that because it would mean an automatic bump in the polls, and its something that his opponents can't attack him on.
what I was trying to say, is that even at this point the right thing to do is to back off of the guy and let him do the job.
I wouldn't say the public deserves that information from any other politician, but given how Ford has resisted getting help so many times before and lied about every element of his addiction, I think voters deserve confirmation that this was a real rehab and not a two-day check-in/check-out. I honestly wouldn't be shocked if he dropped out of rehab after a couple days, stayed out of the spotlight for a few weeks, and then tried to pass it off as long, intensive rehab.
granted, I don't think Ford has earned the benefit of the doubt.
Its funny how you put it Octo, Ford has acted like every addict that I've know. I'm hoping that he's hit the point where he can't lie to himself anymore and can't resist getting help anymore.
At the same time, I've know a lot of addicts that hit rock bottom, go to get help with the best intentions, then drop out and pretty much die.
I don't even think 30 day rehab is enough, if his family really cared, they'd push him to give up the mayors race and concentrate on his recovery.
If he really is in rehab good on him, and yeah people should leave him alone.
However, it does feel like maybe it would be a political ploy. Tape comes out, ok, gotta make it look like I'm doing the right thing. But really, I'm just going on a vacation.
It wouldn't be the first time he's lied in this whole scenario. And really, that's what addicts do. They lie over and over and over to avoid facing the truth till they hit rock bottom. So, it's not just Rob. It's what people in his situation do.
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At this point, the humane thing to do would be for people to just leave him alone and let him get through rehab, if he's in a facility and getting help then good for him, he's clearly more then a casual user, and he's certainly gone beyond that good time drinker to full blown lunatic.
If he looked in the mirror and decided to get help then good for him, leave him alone, let him get through it.
Of course the media smells blood in the water now, and they'll do anything to find him, and not only that pressure him til he falls off the wagon, he's their gravy train.
Personally the guy needs to walk into the sunset and leave public life.
I also think his brother is his biggest enabler.
Shouldn't you be outraged that he's continuing to receive his salary despite not being at work?
Shouldn't you be outraged that he's continuing to receive his salary despite not being at work?
He's not in palm beach eating pizza with his kids and going on bike paths. Remember the Alberta rules are that it has to be a reason of illness, or loss of family member etc.
Going to rehab to battle an addiction to me is a pretty legitimate reason.
You trying to equate what the hamburgler . . . errr Redford did with a guy going into rehab is actually pretty sad.
I will say that if it was Redford with a crack addiction she would have had the Alberta plane fly down to pick up her dealer, flown it straight to her winter palace and then charged the taxpayer for everything including the crack.
That's what your getting at right, why was I pissed at Redford who had no legitimate reason to miss work and Ford who I think does (unless its proven that he didn't go to get help)
I've also said that the smart thing for Ford to do would be to walk away from public office or the pursuit of.
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It kind of sounds like he has gone into hiding while still trying to campaign.
I'm not sure people have a right to know where he is, but I do think people have a right to have confirmation that he is in fact getting treatment. And that confirmation needs to come from someone who is not one of Rob Ford's inner circle of enablers.
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My take is that if Rob Ford is in a treatment facility, and is on hiatus from the public eye (campaign, mayoralty work, etc) we as a public have no right to know where he is, or his progress.
Let the man get treatment, that is of the utmost important.
However once he is done, if he re-enters the public eye we most certainly need to know where he was and the outcome of the treatment.
Personal demons are personal, if you voluntarily enter (or in this case re-enter) the public eye you forfeit the personal information to the public.
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