05-02-2014, 02:59 AM
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#101
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan
Maybe, but we still need to get more defensman and RWers... With the possibility of Dal Colle being picked at #4, we might be done with LWers for the after-1st rounds. However, Burke did state that he is going with the BPA, not sure if he impled that for every draft position or just the 4th overall.
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Once we get into the 2nd & 3rd rounds it seems like a lot of the best prospects are big defencemen and RW anyway. There'll be plenty to choose from there, and they'll probably be BPA at that stage.
I could just about guarantee that no one shorter than 6’ is drafted though. They may not draft for specific needs positionally, but both Treliving and Burke have emphasised the size factor.
Cornel, Bleackley, Sanheim, Glover, MacInnis, Vanier, Smith, Dougherty, Jacobs, Thomas, Irving, Magyar and many others all fulfil the criteria we'll probably be looking at in this draft.
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05-03-2014, 11:22 AM
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#102
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Mock Draft Playoffs Edition at THW:
1st Round link
2nd Rnd Link
I think the Flames have a nice virtual haul.
Agree or disagree?
Definitely some other alternatives considered with both 2nd rnd picks (for instance, Eric Cornel with 34th and a dman with second second rounder such as Alex Peters)
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05-03-2014, 01:15 PM
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#103
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Franchise Player
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If we end up with Bennett and Sanheim, I'll be a damn happy Flames fan. Don't know anything about Lindholm (LW, who they have going to us at 58). I'm a big proponent of drafting defenseman in the 2nd round though, so I'm somewhat hoping we take two defensemen in the 2nd round to compliment the centre we snag at #4.
Last edited by ComixZone; 05-03-2014 at 01:18 PM.
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05-04-2014, 02:20 PM
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#104
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
If we end up with Bennett and Sanheim, I'll be a damn happy Flames fan. Don't know anything about Lindholm (LW, who they have going to us at 58). I'm a big proponent of drafting defenseman in the 2nd round though, so I'm somewhat hoping we take two defensemen in the 2nd round to compliment the centre we snag at #4.
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Damn straight!
I still think they have to go BPA at this point - true that they have to strengthen the organization as a whole, but can't be of the mindset that "we have to draft 2 dmen in 2nd". Players will develop in their own time.
Lindblom would be a nice snag with the second 2nd rnder. Good size, all-around forward. Not flashy, but has offensive acumen(almost PPG in recent WJ U18s & 6 Goals in 7 playoff games - SWE U20).
Link to stats: http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=86181
FC Hockey had this to say:
"Lindblom is a powerful skater with a strong, two-way game. He isn't shy to do the dirty work and is a pain to move out from in front of the net. He gets himself open to create offensive chances but isn't overly flashy. (August 2013)"
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05-04-2014, 04:21 PM
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#105
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by FlameZilla
Once we get into the 2nd & 3rd rounds it seems like a lot of the best prospects are big defencemen and RW anyway. There'll be plenty to choose from there, and they'll probably be BPA at that stage.
I could just about guarantee that no one shorter than 6’ is drafted though. They may not draft for specific needs positionally, but both Treliving and Burke have emphasised the size factor.
Cornel, Bleackley, Sanheim, Glover, MacInnis, Vanier, Smith, Dougherty, Jacobs, Thomas, Irving, Magyar and many others all fulfil the criteria we'll probably be looking at in this draft.
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Nice list! I really like Magyar - A little confused at where we might get him or how high he would go in the draft. I think the Col second would be decent value.
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05-04-2014, 05:11 PM
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#106
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Why does this draft class have so many Former players Sons? Its like the baby boomer's kids are all hitting the draft at the same time.
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05-05-2014, 07:38 PM
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#107
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanda
Why does this draft class have so many Former players Sons? Its like the baby boomer's kids are all hitting the draft at the same time.
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It's the City of Brotherly Love Draft - what better draft than to have so many brothers and sons of NHLers of past present & future in the same draft than in Philly.
You're right though - seems like more than normal this draft class.
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05-05-2014, 07:48 PM
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#108
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by cral12
It's the City of Brotherly Love Draft - what better draft than to have so many brothers and sons of NHLers of past present & future in the same draft than in Philly.
You're right though - seems like more than normal this draft class.
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Would love that to happen, because that'd be 2 Reinharts. Could trade some forward prospects in a package for Griffin (need big young defencemen & we have too many forwards)
Like the Staals but younger.
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05-30-2014, 09:20 PM
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#110
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Franchise Player
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We're t minus 1 month now folks so I thought I'd dust this thread off for those who might want to take a stab at it. I was so pleased to see Ben Thomas - who I used Colorado's 2nd on - interviewed at that draft combine behind the scenes video. Definitely hoping we get him now.
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05-30-2014, 10:12 PM
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#111
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Scoring Winger
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ROUND 2, 34TH OVERALL JACK DOUGHERTY D FROM THE USHL
23-4-8-12:6'2, 186lbs, shoots right, May 25th, 1996
Dougherty will be heading to the U of Wisconsin this fall. He's a very good two way defenseman. He can shut down any team's top player. He's very smart. Poised with the puck he can fire good two way passes to breakout of the zone. He can QB a PP and always seems to find the open man even with defenders coming hard at him. He knows when to jump into the rush and is effective when he joins. Never out of position Jack won't let attackers get an open shooting or passing lane. Throws his weight around but won't let himself get out of position. Doesn't let players get position on him. Dougherty has a very high compete level. Blocks a lot of shots. If he can improve his skating I believe he can be a top pair guy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOMWViJLlMI
NHL COMPARISON: Niklas Kronwall (suggested by lastwordonsports.com)
NHL ETA: 2016/2017
SKATING: 3/5
SHOT: 4/5
LANE BLOCKING: 5/5
200ft GAME: 4/5
ICE Q: 5/5
"I'd say I'm pretty smart, I know my position, play defines pretty well. I like to get Physical, get into guys heads. I think I'm an OK skater...I get by" -Jack Dougherty when asked by THN about his style of play
option 2: Jack Glover D, USHL
Two way defenseman who is very mobile. Has a physical game and smart in all 3 zones. Good passer out of his zone.
option 3: Travis Sanheim D, Calgary
Big rangy, defender with size, skill, feet, puck skills and shot. Good on PP. Definition of two way defender.
2ND ROUND, 58TH OVERALL: RYAN COLLINS FROM THE USHL
26-0-2-2:6'5, 202lbs, shoots right, May 6th, 1996
Collins is a big defender who has finally caught up to his size. His foot speed has really improved. He has the size everyone looks at in a defenseman. He uses his size well in clearing the net and winning battles. Also he uses his reach to poke the puck away or disrupt passing lanes. Very good in transition and is very good positionally. Collins has a strong breakout pass to get the rush going. Great Ice Q in his own end. As Collins will continue to build and mature on a strong season at U of Minnesota.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0BSlNNaIrrg
NHL Comparison: Chris Pronger
NHL ETA: 2017/2018
SKATING: 3/5
SHOT: 2/5
LANE BLOCKING: 4/5
200ft GAME: 4/5
ICE Q: 4/5
"From the beginning of the season to the end, there might not have been a player who developed more than Collins. He's always had the size element that would intrigue everybody. But he's developed into a pretty good all-around player, and he's only going to get better" -Unknown NHL Scout
option 2: Ben Thomas D, Calgary
Great offensive instincts. Phenomenal skater and good first pass. Throws his weight around.
option 3: Hunter Smith LW, Oshawa
Big winger who was passed on the last two drafts.
3RD ROUND, 64TH OVERALL: NICK MAGYAR FROM THE KITCHENER RANGERS OHL
66-20-26-46:6'2, 194lbs, shoots right, May 29th, 1996
Magyar has improved his game a lot in the last couple years. His style of play is suited for the NHL. Can plays rush game or cycle. Has some speed on the wing. Plays physical, good back checker and goes to the dirty areas. Good offensive vision. Great shot and good positionally. Fairly raw but really developing. If he becomes a bit more physical he can be an effective top 6 winger. Magyar has been climbing the draft rankings all year and is in a position where he can go 2nd round. Has a goal scoring mind and lead the Rangers in goals in his rookie year.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjRIvG6XM9c
NHL COMPARISON: Corey Perry
NHL ETA: 2017/2018
SKATING: 4/5
SHOT: 4/5
HANDS: 2/5
200ft GAME: 4/5
ICE Q: 3/5
Magyar is a complete player who has strong hockey sense. He has the raw talent and playmaking abilities to eventually be a successful NHL player. Makes smart plays with the puck on his stick, likes to play physical and is effective in both the forecheck and cycle game -FC
option 2: Blake Siebanler D, Niagara
Offensive D-man can also kill penalties and has a good shot.
option 3: Alexis Vanier D, Baie-Comeau
Huge D-man intimidates with physicality and big point shot.
3RD ROUND, 85TH OVERALL: JACOB MIDDLETON D FROM THE OTTAWA 67'S, OHL
65-2-21-23:6'2, 208lbs, shoots right, JAN 2nd, 1996
Middleton has good size which he uses well. Has great mobility. Great skater overall who can pivot well and transition from offence to defines well. Very strong and will win battles along the boards. This is a development pick. Needs to use his speed better to close in on offensive players. He can jump into the rush. Great smarts, especially in the offensive ends and can read passes and gets in the way. Moves the puck well. Middleton will throw his weight around as well.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGK4S7-yNMI
NHL COMPARISON: Kieth Yandle
NHL ETA: 2017/2018
SKATING: 4/5
SHOT: 3/5
LANE BLOCKING: 3/5
200ft GAME: 3/5
ICE Q: 3/5
Middledon is a big-bodied, two-way defender that has strong mobility and a willingness to jump into the play. He makes heady passes and shows good vision and on-ice smarts. He isn't afraid to add a physical tone to the game, either -FC
option 2: Daniel Audette C, Sherbrooke
Undersized pivot is highly skilled and battles hard
option 3: Keegan Iverson RW, Portland
High compete level with a lot of skill. Knows how to hit
6TH ROUND, 179TH OVERALL: MATT MURPHY D, HALIFAX MOOSEHEADS, QMJHL
64-10-26-36:6'2, 198lbs, shoots left, MAY 1st, 1995
Went undrafted last year Murphy has all the tools to be a good defenseman, he just needs to put them together. Developed in the last two years in Halifax and has really progressed in his own zone. He's very mobile and he can jump into the rush. Good offensive vision and makes the extra pass. He has size and he needs to use it a bit more on the physical side but he uses his reach to knock pucks away. Doesn't wander in his own end and knows where the opposition is at all times. He can eat a lot of minutes and improves with minutes. If he puts everything together and polishes his game he can be a good NHL defenseman and a steal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRpnULtWvHo
NHL COMPARISON: Adam McQuaid
NHL ETA: 2016/2017
SKATING: 3/5
SHOT: 2/5
LANE BLOCKING: 3/5
200ft GAME: 4/5
ICE Q: 3/5
“Matt Murphy has played very well, especially lately,” He’s such a powerful skater and a very skilled hockey player. He’s really elevated his game the last couple of weeks with all the injuries we’ve had. He’s done a terrific job. He’s always had an offensive flair to his game and he’s got a pro shot. That’s one of the things the coaches wanted to see — him using his shot more. Now he’s doing it and he’s scored a couple the last few games. And he’s a heads-up player so I see a guy that’s capable of playing an offensive role as well.” -Mooseheads GM Cam Russell
option 2: Joe Hicketts D, Victoria
Doubt he falls but small defenseman who plays big and has lots of mobility would be a steal
option 3: Chase Lang RW, Calgary
Hard worker who hits and has some speed, great PKer. Should be effective bottom 6 player
7TH ROUND, 184TH OVERALL: SEBASTION FUCHS LW FOR KANAI RIVER, NAHL
57-12-26-38:5'10, 180 lbs, shoots left, September 15th 1996
Swedish winger who is very quick and has an elite hockey sense. He keeps plays alive. He's the youngest kid in his class and I think if he was next years draft he'd go 5th round. He can carry a team and PP the powerplay. Very consistent. Great puck possession and a great give and go player. Great in small spaces.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9ahNEXuNM4
NHL COMPARISON: Paul Byron
NHL ETA: 2019/2020
SKATING: 4/5
SHOT: 2/5
HANDS: 3/5
200ft GAME: 2/5
ICE Q: 3/5
“They have a proud tradition, we’re very happy and excited for Sebastian and his family, for our organization and for the University of Denver, very exciting prospect who has very good smarts and has blazing speed. We're also getting a great off ice player" -Brown Bears head coach Geoff Beauparlant
option 2: Tanner Faith D, Kootenay
Big RHD defenseman who plays a raw game and has some offensive ability
option 3: Chandler Yakimowicz C, Wilkes Barrie
6'3 lanky centre that uses his size well. Finishes his checks and right handed. He crashes the net and has some finesse around the net
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05-30-2014, 11:03 PM
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#112
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Nice work Monahan23 but I'd like a goalie somewhere. Maybe MacDonald.
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05-30-2014, 11:08 PM
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#113
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Vulcan
Nice work Monahan23 but I'd like a goalie somewhere. Maybe MacDonald.
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Ya, we could use a goalie with the Pittsburgh pick, MacDonlad or Kahkonen. Although if Demko's abailable with the 34th we shold jump on him
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