CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[Kjesse]

I think we have to consider that the Dr. may have to protect the claimed vigilante. Again, I choose to believe him, as he's made a claim that's going to expose him very quickly if he's lying, we don't need to test that theory today.

If there is a different vigilante, they just had the ability to kill a guaranteed mafia member. And they didn't do it.

The problem is, protecting the vigilante, the obvious move, is going to expose a few other posters whom I think are town and on the mafia hit list.

[bizaro86]

unvote

If someone else is the vigilante, kill ineedanother now, since you would know he is a guaranteed mafia, making it a 100 percent good use of your kill.

Otherwise it makes sense to assume he is a townie.

[Timbo]

I am in a state of disbelief. The Scum search roots out the Vigilante?
The one in 30 chance? Plausible yet if you were scum and accused would you...
1. Claim as a Townie
2. Claim as a power holder

As former scum I lied to stay alive when accused, really what else can you do?
I hate this early reveal. So little votes against and he panics.
Is this the play you would do if you were put in this situation as the real vigilante?

As the vigilante why would he be so eager to jump into the lynch? He's got a kill in hand.
ineedabeer has not hunted for scum he has just jumped into an accusation and voted.
Inexperience or guilt?
I am not sure, but it is time to nut up or shut up? I will gladly change my vote if someone can present compelling evidece to the contrary.

Vote ineedabeer

[Timbo]

Opps I mean evidence ( hate the non edit thing)

[kermitology]

Interesting defence, but I'm not sure I buy it.

Vote: ineedabeer

[ineedanother]

Originally Posted by Timbo

I am in a state of disbelief. The Scum search roots out the Vigilante?
The one in 30 chance? Plausible yet if you were scum and accused would you...
1. Claim as a Townie
2. Claim as a power holder

As former scum I lied to stay alive when accused, really what else can you do?
I hate this early reveal. So little votes against and he panics.
Is this the play you would do if you were put in this situation as the real vigilante?

As the vigilante why would he be so eager to jump into the lynch? He's got a kill in hand.
ineedabeer has not hunted for scum he has just jumped into an accusation and voted.
Inexperience or guilt?
I am not sure, but it is time to nut up or shut up? I will gladly change my vote if someone can present compelling evidece to the contrary.

Vote ineedabeer

Well this sounds exactly what the mafia would want the townies to think. I believe this moves you to the top of my list of mafia.

unvote

vote: Timbo

[Timbo]

No defence, no justification of innocence, just a pure deflection and attack on an accuser.

You need more than this.

No one knows who anyone is at this point in the game.But a guilty person accuses the accuser IMO.
Been there done that and guess what... I died

[kermitology]

I agree with Timbo, this is pure deflection. Either ineedabeer kills someone or he dies, put your money where your mouth is.

[ineedanother]

Originally Posted by Timbo

No defence, no justification of innocence, just a pure deflection and attack on an accuser.

You need more than this.

No one knows who anyone is at this point in the game.But a guilty person accuses the accuser IMO.
Been there done that and guess what... I died

I have played my cards, everything you have said is exactly what the mafia wants. You want me to use my kill, but the only way this benefits you is if you are mafia. Why would a townie try to test my hand? I am kinda curious why Kermitology piggy backed on you post within 15 minutes. Also a second post from Kermitology less then 10 min after Timbo post. Looks like they are communicating trying to get me to waste my kill.

[Timbo]

What is even more funny is I never even voted his real name.

Unvote

Vote Ineedanother

[Timbo]

Kermitology whats up with that?

[Timbo]

Yes the plot thickens.

* What I like about this game is our patience and having posts not in the 9-5 (I work at a computer all day prime time)*

[DropIt]

I dunno, this seems an awful lot like grasping at straws now, voting against every person that questions your motives.

I dont want to see a vigilante kill this early in the game, or be a victim of what has seemingly devolved into a bell tower situation but I think you need to really start thinking about who you want to kill, because It's likely going to be tested soon.

[Timbo]

DropIt
I do not want to see a lynching vigilante kill either. But what I what to see is townsfolk hunting, not playing scared.

I'm hunting, stalking and accusing. If that gets me nightkilled or lynched so be it.
I am not sitting on the fence. Attack attack and attack is where I sit.

Milquetoast posters go on my Hercule Poirot lists of suspects.

Yup... I am coming on hardcore and putting myself on the kill floor.

Bring it on bitches

[strombad]

If voting against the accuser makes you mafia, then HG15 would've been an obvious choice for people to jump on (but you didn't) so your reasoning is inconsistent.

[hmmhmmcamo]

Crazy day...just getting a chance to post now.

I was curious to why Rathji changed his vote out of the blue last night without explanation. I reread the thread last night and noticed a few things that put a few people on my radar.

In the morning Rathji explained why he unvoted /voted the way he did and why he thought ineedanother was Mafia (see post #232). Ineedanother was on my radar last night as well but for a different reason.

My gut feeling is that ineedanother is inexperienced Mafia, and when he saw the early votes going his way, he panicked and claimed he was the vigilante to save himself.

I thought his reveal post was weird (see post #312).
-He talked about everyone targeting him (he only had 5 votes at that point).
-Then he mentioned having a “trick up his sleeve”, almost like he had some kind of survivor immunity idol, which meant he was safe and couldn’t be voted for.

Anyone can claim anything at any point. But since his role reveal there have been a few players claiming that ineedanother must be Town, but haven’t really provided any valid reasons (imo).

There has been talk about if ineedanother isn’t the real vigilante, the real vigilante should kill him immediately, and if they don’t, they don’t exist and what ineedanother has claimed has to be true. That’s nonsense.

Rathji has volunteered himself for ineedanother to prove himself, but ineedanother doesn’t want to pull the trigger, even though he’s made a couple accusations already towards Rathji being Mafia (ie. post #312).

[hmmhmmcamo]

Tl:dr:

I think the damage has been done, and regardless, ineedanother can’t be trusted anymore and needs to go.

Vote: ineedanother

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by strombad

If voting against the accuser makes you mafia, then HG15 would've been an obvious choice for people to jump on (but you didn't) so your reasoning is inconsistent.

So if I vote strombad your first instinct is to vote Timbo in retaiation? This is day 1. I think we all should be able to defend ourselves. I have concerns when people lash out accusations towards those who try to make a logical (yes possibly wrong) probes to their allience.

[Timbo]

Originally Posted by strombad

If voting against the accuser makes you mafia, then HG15 would've been an obvious choice for people to jump on (but you didn't) so your reasoning is inconsistent.

Also at this point niether HG15 or you are not without being suspect by my myself at this point.

I am sure you hold me in the same regard.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Timbo

So if I vote strombad your first instinct is to vote Timbo in retaiation? This is day 1. I think we all should be able to defend ourselves. I have concerns when people lash out accusations towards those who try to make a logical (yes possibly wrong) probes to their allience.

That's not at all what I'm saying, you are the one who said retaliatory voting is suspicious, and I'm pointing out a point in time where you did not find it at all suspicious. The problem with that is that when HG15 did it to me (I made a case against him, so he voted against me because of it) you didn't so much as blink an eye or make mention of it that I saw. Therefore, your "retaliatory voting" suspicion is loose and unreliable.

It seems like you're just using it as a crutch, leaning on it because ineedanother voted for you so you decided to make up a reason why that was bad, when just hours ago when the EXACT same thing happened between two other people, you were quiet as a mouse.

You don't find retaliatory voting suspicious, you just find it to be a good reason to lob another jab at ineedanother. It's pretty transparent.