04-30-2014, 05:09 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Rocky Mt House
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I like the name Heat, and love the old Atlanta logo.
Don't see why we couldn't use both.
That said, Adirondack Heat, or Adirondack Flames, I hope they use that logo.
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04-30-2014, 05:13 PM
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#22
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nehkara
Playing devil's advocate here... what is the likelihood of actually getting enough people to attend games in Glens Falls? The population is only 15,000.
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Why not look at their track record with the Phantoms for that answer?
2013-14: 4192
2012-13: 3994
2011-12: 4631
2010-11: 3575
2009-10: 4018
Average: 4082
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04-30-2014, 05:23 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Mar 2014
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Considering abbotsford is down to 3000 this year I guess that's fine.
With the smaller building it should look packed every night at least.
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04-30-2014, 05:27 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
The problem that I understand is it's far away from the nearest airport.
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It's about an hour's drive from Glens Falls to Albany, which is about the same as Abbotsford to YVR. Albany has regular flights to most major eastern US cities, including big hubs like Chicago, Atlanta, and Minneapolis.
The only NHL cities that the Abbotsford airport has direct flights to are Calgary and Edmonton. Unless the Flames were in Vancouver, Calgary, or Edmonton when they needed to make a call-up (and the Heat were in Abbotsford too), the drive to the nearest airport won't be any worse.
The advantage to having the team in Abbotsford is that you can do a quick call-up, if both teams are at home at the time. The disadvantage is that the team has to travel so much more that they lose practice days. For the long-term development of the players, the extra practice days are much more valuable than the few times during the season that they took advantage of quick call-ups.
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04-30-2014, 05:36 PM
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Not Jim Playfair
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Also, it's Glens Falls.
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04-30-2014, 05:38 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jacks
They are paying for the arena to sit empty now, hard to imagine a deal worse than that.
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Pretty sure The City of Abbotsford is covering losses
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04-30-2014, 06:08 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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As falls Glen, so falls Glens Falls
Last edited by troutman; 04-30-2014 at 06:11 PM.
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04-30-2014, 06:09 PM
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Yrebmi
I like the name Heat, and love the old Atlanta logo.
Don't see why we couldn't use both.
That said, Adirondack Heat, or Adirondack Flames, I hope they use that logo.
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Heat is not a name, it's weather. Let's go back to nicknames than end in S please.
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04-30-2014, 06:21 PM
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#29
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Question for you AHL Guru's, if Abbotsford moves to Glens Falls, would they be in the same division as the new Allentown Phantoms?
If so the new Allentown arena is like 10 mins away from my house so I could probably go to all of those games..
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04-30-2014, 07:12 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nufy
Yep...
Glens Falls - Albany - Chicago/Minny/Toronto - Calgary or elsewhere...
No quick call ups from there.
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For this reason, I don't see them as a long term solution.
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04-30-2014, 07:19 PM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan
For this reason, I don't see them as a long term solution.
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Regular team travel seems far more important than call-up travel, though, right? How many call-ups happen, with one or two players at a time, compared with the whole team traveling for road games.
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04-30-2014, 07:39 PM
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#32
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Sunshine Coast
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Quote:
Originally Posted by the2bears
Regular team travel seems far more important than call-up travel, though, right? How many call-ups happen, with one or two players at a time, compared with the whole team traveling for road games.
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Conroy won't like it.
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04-30-2014, 07:48 PM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Looks like its about 6 hours with the stop over from Albany to Calgary. I really don't think quick trips to Calgary are that big of a concern. Very rare that you need a guy to show up and play in the same day.
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04-30-2014, 08:14 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Montreal
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I just drove through there last weekend on my way to NY from Montreal. It really isn't much of a town at all, and right in the middle of nowhere. Hope it works out.....I agree with bringing back the flaming A.....awesome logo.
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04-30-2014, 08:19 PM
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#35
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tyler
Pretty sure The City of Abbotsford is covering losses
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I understand that but the Glenn Falls arena is sitting empty so it's probably close to 100% loss being covered by the taxpayer. Hard to get worse than that. Unless you mean that Abby is covering team losses?
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04-30-2014, 08:28 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgARI
Also, it's Glens Falls.
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^^^^^^^^
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04-30-2014, 08:39 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Southern Alberta
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Dear WestJet,
Please put together a twice a year charter flight from YYC to Albany with a bus tour hosted (again) by Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I guarantee a sell out every time! In fact Pat Steinberg has already broken his Piggy Bank for the deposit
Love CP
Also I took a look at their Facebook page, and it is nice to see so many comments welcoming the Heat to Glens Falls
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04-30-2014, 09:53 PM
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#38
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Franchise Player
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Glens Falls is also set up alot like Vancouver when it comes to census information.
Glens Falls (15k), West Glens Falls (7k), Glens Falls North (8k) and Queensbury (28k) are all pretty much 1 larger community. So it is more like moving to a community of 58,000 people.
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04-30-2014, 09:58 PM
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#39
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nehkara
Glens Falls Civic Center is a 35-year-old arena that has a capacity of 4,749 plus standing room only adding another 1,000.
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Thank god they cut a huge hole in the stands so nobody can have a low center ice view.
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04-30-2014, 10:18 PM
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#40
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Draft Pick
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The Flaming A would be awesome to see again, hopefully they use it.
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