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Old 04-28-2014, 02:38 PM   #21
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Great... so more angles for the stations to switch to where you can't tell what the hell is going on.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:40 PM   #22
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my favorite camera angle is still the one high up behind the net on a PP/PK.
I love watching every player get into position vs traditional angles which zoom to much into the play.
I agree, I don't understand why they don't use that angle more often. It works great with HD. Standard def not so much.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:41 PM   #23
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It'll be a camera angle they'll use only when they fade to a commercial break.
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:41 PM   #24
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:44 PM   #25
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I agree, I don't understand why they don't use that angle more often. It works great with HD. Standard def not so much.
Baby steps... they are still trying to figure out how to put together a panel that doesnt force people to change the chanel and how to put the audio in sync... using an available camera angle the public enjoys has to be a few years down the road!
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:45 PM   #26
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Hopefully the drone will be able to see into the future, just like Kerr
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Old 04-28-2014, 02:58 PM   #27
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We just had a meeting late last week regarding cameras and different angles we can and should be getting. The issue for us really isn't the amount of cameras we can have but the ability to get them up quickly for replays. We would have to expand our EVS system and get one or probably two new replay guys in to take advantage of something like this. This would not be the main camera but just another angle on the play, a different perspective on the play.

Pretty cool but tough to do I would think. Need a decent landing area for breaks. Potential of it crashing onto a player, insurance etc. Still neat.
Pretty sure this drone does not come equipped with a transmitter. How does the signal get to somewhere to be recorded? Once you hard wire / tether something, it kind of stops being a drone doesn't it?

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Old 04-28-2014, 03:06 PM   #28
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I do not like the idea, it would be distracting for everyone involved and seem ridiculously out of place. It would discourage me from going to see games live.
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Old 04-28-2014, 03:12 PM   #29
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Pretty sure this drone does not come equipped with a transmitter. How does the signal get to somewhere to be recorded? Once you hard wire / tether something, it kind of stops being a drone doesn't it?
RF transmitter. They are small, pack of gum kind of thing. We already use a bunch of RF cameras so fitting a drone (haven't seen what they are using) wouldn't be all that tough. I've messed around with a buddies quadcopter thingy with a Gopro and RF transmitter. Easy peasy.
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RF transmitter. They are small, pack of gum kind of thing. We already use a bunch of RF cameras so fitting a drone (haven't seen what they are using) wouldn't be all that tough. I've messed around with a buddies quadcopter thingy with a Gopro and RF transmitter. Easy peasy.
I don't think "pack of gum" is going to get to broadcast quality. Real-time HD video? They'll need power as well. Drones and Gopros and RF transmitters have been around long enough that if they were at all practical somebody somewhere other than a rink in Utah would had worked something out.

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Old 04-28-2014, 03:34 PM   #31
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I don't think "pack of gum" is going to get to broadcast quality. Real-time HD video? They'll need power as well. Drones and Gopros and RF transmitters have been around long enough that is they were at all practical somebody somewhere other than a rink in Utah would had worked something out.
I'm sorry. Didn't realize the three cameras that are completely wireless with batteries and RF transmitters that I have running around Rogers arena couldn't do HD video in real time for true broadcast quality. Silly me.

Dimensions: 100mm x 30mm x 190mm of one of the packs we currently use. The actually size of the electronics inside is quite a bit smaller. Pack of gum on my desk, 85mm x 10mm x 60mm. I'm sure if I threw a camera mount on the pack of gum it would be a little bigger.
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I'm sorry. Didn't realize the three cameras that are completely wireless with batteries and RF transmitters that I have running around Rogers arena couldn't do HD video in real time for true broadcast quality. Silly me.

Dimensions: 100mm x 30mm x 190mm of one of the packs we currently use. The actually size of the electronics inside is quite a bit smaller. Pack of gum on my desk, 85mm x 10mm x 60mm. I'm sure if I threw a camera mount on the pack of gum it would be a little bigger.
Is it capable of tranmitting HD video? Because in spite of what most people think, most scoreboard video is not HD.
Those cameras / transmitters are on people's shoulder's right? Not attached to a drone with a maximum payload of a few kg's. And how come every camera in television doesn't use "pack of gum" sized RF transmitters, rather than cables? You make it sound so simple.
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Why not have a true overhead camera that goes North and South? This is just good for replays and whistle shots.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:16 PM   #34
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Are there any arenas/broadcasters that have cameras mounted on the base of the scoreboard? It seems to me like it would be beneficial to add a couple of cameras under the scoreboards and maybe it already exists.
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Everything we do is HD, 1080i. Most score boards are re-sized HD, not the proper aspect ratio. Don't think there is anybody in the NHL not doing HD out of their control rooms. RF cameras are on someone's shoulder so? Have no idea what the payload is of the average drone but the entire transmitter is under 1kg with the majority of the weight being in the casing which isn't necessary, the actual electronics are very small and light, maybe 0.2kg if that. battery wouldn't be that big a deal, definitely add weight but it's not like you need to power it for hours on end.

Cost, it's not hard to figure out. Cable? $100 or so? RF system capable of handling 2 cameras? $30,000 or so. If the camera is stationary why would I need an RF pack?

Setting it up is simple, it's been done. Getting someone to pilot the craft and then someone to control the camera might be the hard part.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:21 PM   #36
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Why not have a true overhead camera that goes North and South? This is just good for replays and whistle shots.
An overheard that follows the play? Would be tough, there's a lot of stuff up in those ceilings. Football is easier for this type of overhead stuff as you generally have open ceilings especially in the outdoor stadiums or at least a lot more room in the domes.

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Are there any arenas/broadcasters that have cameras mounted on the base of the scoreboard? It seems to me like it would be beneficial to add a couple of cameras under the scoreboards and maybe it already exists.
We have one under the score board at Rogers. It's ok but the angle looking down at the goalies is really not the greatest for viewing as a spectator,hard to see all the players and tough to see an actual play. We do use it in video coaching to show positioning in certain situations. Side view, overhead, and back view kind of thing.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:22 PM   #37
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They had drones for the live broadcasts of the ski and snowboard events at Sochi.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:26 PM   #38
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They use a drone camera for cricket. It doesn't seem to get in they way and adds some cool replay angles. I think one of them had issues once though and delayed the game for a few minutes.

I'm not sure how that would translate to a fast paced sport played in a smaller enclosed stadium. I think as long as it was kept at the top of the arena and didn't distract the fans at the game it wouldn't be a problem.
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Old 04-28-2014, 04:36 PM   #39
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I would rather they looked into the Ref cam that we have seen at lower levels.
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Old 04-28-2014, 05:33 PM   #40
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Is the SkyCam or SpiderCam too slow for the NHL?

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