[News] Burke says he is unlikely to trade up... hasn't watched Bennett

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

"Significant"? I think you are overstating the difference between #3 and #4 here. All four of Bennet, Ekblad, Draisaitl, and Reinhart have spent time in the top-three.

The only time Draisaitl was top 3 was on a mock draft, not a scouting ranking.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by nik-

The only time Draisaitl was top 3 was on a mock draft, not a scouting ranking.

Wrong. Draisaitl was ranked #2 in Central Scouting's mid-term rankings.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Wrong. Draisaitl was ranked #2 in Central Scouting's mid-term rankings.

oh ok, well you win then. Regardless, he's not there now.

[herashak]

Is draisatl seen as nhl ready?

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by herashak

Is draisatl seen as nhl ready?

No he's seen as Edmonton ready

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by nik-

oh ok, well you win then. Regardless, he's not there now.

Sure, but I think the fluctuations over the past several months and weeks attests more to how close the top four are, and rather contradicts this idea about a supposed gulf that separates #3 and #4.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by herashak

Is draisatl seen as nhl ready?

He has NHL size right now, no doubt. His skating has been reported as anywhere from poor, to average. From what I've seen of him, I would put his skating, using the Randy Carlyle rating system, as "Just ok". I didn't think it was a glaring weakness.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Considering the positions they play and the value I expect them each to have in 5 years or so... yes, it is a big drop...

Astonishing to encounter someone who can project the prospects of 18-year-old hockey players five years into the future.

This is ridiculous.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Sure, but I think the fluctuations over the past several months and weeks attests more to how close the top four are, and rather contradicts this idea about a supposed gulf that separates #3 and #4.

One place had Draisaitl at two ... once. I would say that's an exception. Meanwhile the other three have been bouncing from 1-3 over several sources. The tiers have been stated pretty consistently, and Draisaitl is on the second tier.

If none of the top three are there, he's not a bad pick, I think he'd be a good one, but I'm not going to pretend the others aren't better.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Astonishing to encounter someone who can project the prospects of 18-year-old hockey players five years into the future.

This is ridiculous.

Isn't "in my opinion" implied by every single post on a forum?

That's what a draft is. Pick whichever player is left you believe will be the best in the future.

[Rick M.]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Wrong. Draisaitl was ranked #2 in Central Scouting's mid-term rankings.

The Hockey Writers has him at #3 now.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by nik-

One place had Draisaitl at two ... once. I would say that's an exception. Meanwhile the other three have been bouncing from 1-3 over several sources. The tiers have been stated pretty consistently, and Draisaitl is on the second tier.

If none of the top three are there, he's not a bad pick, I think he'd be a good one, but I'm not going to pretend the others aren't better.

I completely agree. But I do take exception to the characterisation of separation of every other prospect from the top three as "significant". In my mind, there is a gap, but it is hardly substantial.

I think the Flames are likely to draft one of Draisaitl, Bennet, or Dal Colle, and will happily end up with a hell of a player.

[Vinny01]

If Buffalo takes Bennett what are the chances the Oilers draft Reinhart? He is more skill and smarts than size and grit. I think they go Draisiatl over Reinhart which would allow him to slide to the Flames

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Buffalo takes Bennett what are the chances the Oilers draft Reinhart? He is more skill and smarts than size and grit. I think they go Draisiatl over Reinhart which would allow him to slide to the Flames

I worry that in such a scenario the Oilers heavy exposure to Reinhart from his years playing against the Oil Kings, and most recently from his very good showing in the playoffs are more than likely to inflate their impression of him. I don't think Reinhart escapes the top three.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

If Buffalo takes Bennett what are the chances the Oilers draft Reinhart? He is more skill and smarts than size and grit. I think they go Draisiatl over Reinhart which would allow him to slide to the Flames

There's gotta be no way the Oilers pick Draistaitl over Reinhart... the size difference isn't even that big. Neither are physical players, so you just pick the best one.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Isn't "in my opinion" implied by every single post on a forum?

Sure. But not all opinions are equally valid. ANYONE who believes that they can gauge the value of developing hockey players that far into the future is full of it.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Sure. But not all opinions are equally valid. ANYONE who believes that they can gauge the value of developing hockey players that far into the future is full of it.

I never guaranteed any of my predictions with 100% certainty. Nobody can predict the future, I'm just doing the best with what knowledge I have.

[Vinny01]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

There's gotta be no way the Oilers pick Draistaitl over Reinhart... the size difference isn't even that big. Neither are physical players, so you just pick the best one.

Isn't there a 30-35lb difference?

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

Isn't there a 30-35lb difference?

All the more upside potential for Reinhart when he matures into his body. There's almost no height difference.

[The Yen Man]

Stranger things have happened I guess, but I wouldn't hold out much hope in drafting Reinhart. Calgary's only realistic chance of that happening was winning the draft lottery.