04-21-2014, 10:43 AM
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#461
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: SW Ontario
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Well this thread went all %#^&y fast.
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04-21-2014, 10:48 AM
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#462
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Over half of Perlini's point came on the powerplay (36 PP points). That is even more concerning because they play in a shoebox of an arena (tiny ice surface) so its just fire the puck randomly and hope it hits someone.
Only 25.6% of Ritchie's points came on the powerplay.
Niagara had 80 more power plays than Peterborough (and 39 more PP goals). If you even that out... Ritchie starts to pull away.
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...that's what happens on bad teams. Monahan picked up 50% of his points on the powerplay with Ottawa last year as well.
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04-21-2014, 12:59 PM
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#463
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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I think it's brutal that posters are claiming Iginla is/was a secondary piece...what a load of crap...have people already forgotten how good he was?!!
There was a window (albeit brief) where many considered him the best player in the league...and the only reason he didn't lead a team to a cup is because the ref didn't see the puck go in.
It's true wingers are not usually the Drivers, but Iginla proved there are exceptions ( as did Howe, Jagr and Richard before him).
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... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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04-21-2014, 01:05 PM
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#464
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I hope other GMs feel like some of the posters on here and don't want to take a D-man with a top 3 pick
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04-21-2014, 01:06 PM
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#465
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius
I think it's brutal that posters are claiming Iginla is/was a secondary piece...what a load of crap...have people already forgotten how good he was?!!
There was a window (albeit brief) where many considered him the best player in the league...and the only reason he didn't lead a team to a cup is because the ref didn't see the puck go in.
It's true wingers are not usually the Drivers, but Iginla proved there are exceptions ( as did Howe, Jagr and Richard before him).
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Has anyone claimed Iginla was a secondary piece? I think Iginla with the Flames was pretty much the pinnacle of what you could accomplish with your best forward by far being a winger. They were a bounce away from winning a cup in a year the team went on a magical run but after that the team was never really an elite cup contender. That's not Iginla's fault as he was never paired with an elite center with the Flames.
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04-21-2014, 01:09 PM
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#466
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: The Bay Area
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Originally Posted by strombad
I am way overpaid for my contributions.
I'm un-moveable in the salary cap era.
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I have a limited NMC... there's a (long) list of teams I won't accept a trade to.
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04-21-2014, 01:10 PM
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#467
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Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Vancouver, BC
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada
Has anyone claimed Iginla was a secondary piece? I think Iginla with the Flames was pretty much the pinnacle of what you could accomplish with your best forward by far being a winger. They were a bounce away from winning a cup in a year the team went on a magical run but after that the team was never really an elite cup contender. That's not Iginla's fault as he was never paired with an elite center with the Flames.
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Yes, he's been used as an example...along with Ovi and a few others.
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Originally Posted by LickTheEnvelope View Post
... Eakins' claims Gagne's line played Kessel's line even...
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Originally Posted by Hells Bells View Post
Yeah, Gagner's line was -4 and Kessel's was +4, so it all evened out.
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04-21-2014, 01:10 PM
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#468
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I was fortunate enough get a NTC from Feaster, sorry I won't move. Lol
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04-21-2014, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Saving the world one gif at a time
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
MMF for moon + Draft Pick + Crash & Bang Winger sounds more fair.
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Not sure what you are getting at there.
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04-22-2014, 04:46 PM
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#470
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The Bennett dream may be dying. The Oilers Ministry of Propaganda has switched their love targets.
Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer 36m
One Eastern-based hockey-type said Sam Bennett is a driver like Brendan Gallagher except bigger, meaner and better...i'd have time for that!
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Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
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04-22-2014, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaskal
MMF for moon + Draft Pick + Crash & Bang Winger sounds more fair.
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moon has been suspended, and has no value.
Better yet, he retired... You might want to get a better offer for MMF.
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04-22-2014, 04:51 PM
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#472
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Originally Posted by nik-
The Bennett dream may be dying. The Oilers Ministry of Propaganda has switched their love targets.
Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer 36m
One Eastern-based hockey-type said Sam Bennett is a driver like Brendan Gallagher except bigger, meaner and better...i'd have time for that!
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90% of Oilers fans want Bennett. Management was never going to go against the grain.
I say there's zero chance we get one of the top 3.
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04-22-2014, 04:52 PM
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#473
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: NC
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Dal Colle it is I guess?
Draisaitl is still a good possibility, I wouldn't mind him, he's got good size.
What a shame Bennett will have to play for them...
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04-22-2014, 04:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
The Bennett dream may be dying. The Oilers Ministry of Propaganda has switched their love targets.
Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer 36m
One Eastern-based hockey-type said Sam Bennett is a driver like Brendan Gallagher except bigger, meaner and better...i'd have time for that!
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NO. You want Draisaitl Stauffer, you are only allowed to pick Draisaitl.
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04-22-2014, 04:54 PM
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#475
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It's likely going to be Dal Colle or Ritchie... significant drop from Bennett.
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04-22-2014, 04:59 PM
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#476
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nik-
The Bennett dream may be dying. The Oilers Ministry of Propaganda has switched their love targets.
Bob Stauffer @Bob_Stauffer 36m
One Eastern-based hockey-type said Sam Bennett is a driver like Brendan Gallagher except bigger, meaner and better...i'd have time for that!
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Not necessarily, I thought Stauffer was pumping Murray 2 years ago and they went with Yakapov. i may be dead wrong on that tho.
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04-22-2014, 05:00 PM
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Location: Okotoks, AB
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04-22-2014, 05:02 PM
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#478
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Originally Posted by H2SO4(aq)
Not necessarily, I thought Stauffer was pumping Murray 2 years ago and they went with Yakapov. i may be dead wrong on that tho.
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Because that's who the Oilers wanted. Katz vetoed the pick just before the draft.
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04-22-2014, 05:08 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: back in Chilliwack
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
It's likely going to be Dal Colle or Ritchie... significant drop from Bennett.
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"Significant"? I think you are overstating the difference between #3 and #4 here. All four of Bennet, Ekblad, Draisaitl, and Reinhart have spent time in the top-three.
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04-22-2014, 05:09 PM
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#480
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Textcritic
"Significant"? I think you are overstating the difference between #3 and #4 here. All four of Bennet, Ekblad, Draisaitl, and Reinhart have spent time in the top-three.
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Considering the positions they play and the value I expect them each to have in 5 years or so... yes, it is a big drop.
With that said, the Oilers will rush Bennett to play next season even if he's not ready.
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