[News] Oilers Hire Bill Scott as assistant GM

[Dagger]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I think that the Edmonton old boys club and refusal to go outside of the organization stems from mass arrogance, they so strongly believe that they can bring back the Oilers style of play from the dynasty years and they believe that everyone from Boston to Vancouver is doing it wrong and they don't want those new ideas.

Well the 80's style of hockey is completely dead.

But if you look at their current build.

Some really flashy top 6 players, no depth a mobile but soft blue line and terrible goaltending. Well that describes about 18 teams from the 80's.

Yes the Oilers were a very good team in the 80's but they were playing teams that were talent poor, thin on depth and had one eyed goalies. Kind of like the modern day goalies.

If I was an Oiler fan I would be looking at this move through a very jaded eye.

I still don't understand how Howson a guy that took a bad team and drove it into the ground is still working in the NHL. Probably because he looks good in Pajama's and Katz likes it.
I was watching Oil change last night and the lasting image to me was the Oilers draft table with Katz yaking away with Lowe, while Katz's goofy looking kid was sitting there in an Oilers jersey with a completely spoiled look on his face.

That organization is diseased and the Oiler fan base doesn't deserve it at all.

Howson laid the ground work for the current Jackets when he started with nothing. If anything, if they're hell bent on sticking to the old boys club Howson should be the one given the keys.

[ernie]

I'm guessing in addition to there not being much of a hiring process that they toasted the hire with some koolaid.

[Street Pharmacist]

What's a Bill Scott?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by ernie

I'm guessing in addition to there not being much of a hiring process that they toasted the hire with some koolaid.

Probably hired him over skype.

[OzSome]

Originally Posted by Locke

Because hes done a bang-up job with the Barons...

What happens to Howson? Are they going to demote him again?

Well maybe they got rid of him because Howson was doing the lottery pick on behalf of Edmonton Oilers. We all know the Oilers did not win the first pick overall. It could have been a dynasty for them winning 4 first pick overall.

Ahhhh.. Edmonton is NO GOOD!!

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

The "old boys club" continues. God forbid they go outside their organization.

Huh?

"The native of Unionville, Ontario graduated from Michigan State University in 2003 with a Bachelors degree in Business Management. He worked as the student manager with the Spartans in the season they hosted The Cold War (first outdoor game) and their run to the Frozen Four in 2001. He got his start in hockey as an intern in the Nashville Predators hockey operations department before moving to the ECHL as manager of hockey operations for three seasons.

Prior to his appointment as general manager of the Barons, Scott acted as the Director of Hockey Operations for the American Hockey League for four seasons. His duties with the AHL included creation the league schedule, assisting in determining player fines and suspensions, supervised regular season and playoff games and interpreted by-laws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement for member teams."

http://okcbarons.com/index.cfm?fa=in...5-0227d803f2b9

This is essentially the anti-thesis of an Old Boy's Club hire.

[Enoch Root]

couple Oiler fans coming in here to refute the Old Boys Club comments, but I haven't seen any actual comments - good or bad - about the hiring.

What say you, Oiler fans? Is he everything you wanted for Christmas?

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Huh?

"The native of Unionville, Ontario graduated from Michigan State University in 2003 with a Bachelors degree in Business Management. He worked as the student manager with the Spartans in the season they hosted The Cold War (first outdoor game) and their run to the Frozen Four in 2001. He got his start in hockey as an intern in the Nashville Predators hockey operations department before moving to the ECHL as manager of hockey operations for three seasons.

Prior to his appointment as general manager of the Barons, Scott acted as the Director of Hockey Operations for the American Hockey League for four seasons. His duties with the AHL included creation the league schedule, assisting in determining player fines and suspensions, supervised regular season and playoff games and interpreted by-laws and the Collective Bargaining Agreement for member teams."

http://okcbarons.com/index.cfm?fa=in...5-0227d803f2b9

This is essentially the anti-thesis of an Old Boy's Club hire.

Huh? They hired someone from the organization. Hence the "old boys club" comment.

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

Huh? They hired someone from the organization. Hence the "old boys club" comment.

I don't think "Old boys club" means what you think it means.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

I don't think "Old boys club" means what you think it means.

It means exactly what I want it to mean. I'm not sure you understand what it means. It means other people from outside the organization don't have the chance at entering the old boys club.

[Sidney Crosby's Hat]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

It means exactly what I want it to mean. I'm not sure you understand what it means. It means other people from outside the organization don't have the chance at entering the old boys club.

How did Scott get hired by the Barons in the first place then?

[Oil Stain]

Originally Posted by puckluck2

It means exactly what I want it to mean. I'm not sure you understand what it means. It means other people from outside the organization don't have the chance at entering the old boys club.

Bill Scott came from outside the organization.

He got his start in pro hockey as an intern with Nashville.

He had zero hockey connections.

Which means he wasn't an old boys club hire.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Sidney Crosby's Hat

How did Scott get hired by the Barons in the first place then?

How did anyone get a start in any "old boys club"? they weren't born into it.

The Oilers have an "old boys club" and they hired another guy from within the organization to be their assistant GM.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Bill Scott came from outside the organization.

He got his start in pro hockey as an intern with Nashville.

He had zero hockey connections.

Which means he wasn't an old boys club hire.

I'm talking about the Oilers hiring him as an assistant GM not them hiring him a while ago to be their Barons GM.

Sorry, you're right. Scott never came out of the womb into an Oilers assistant GM role.

[CaptainCrunch]

ok, lets change the terminology a bit. Bill Scott has been working within the Oilers organization for four years. As the gm in OKC he has had a hand in that so called exceptional development system that the Oilers have. He has been doing things the Oiler way for 4 years. The way that isn't working.

The bottom line is that the Oilers really should have been looking for fresh blood, not the same old sh%t when it comes to bringing people into the front office.

[smalltownref]

I think the term you are looking for is that the Oilers management like to 'promote from within', at least at the NHL level.

Which is kind of funny to think about... because of their new captain Ference. Where the Oilers shouldn't be promoting from with in, they are. And where the Oilers are promoting from within, they shouldn't be.

[CaptainCrunch]

I was wondering if the Oilers actually interviewed someone from the outside world, or if they just promoted Scott?

Like they just decided to hire an inexperienced person like Mac-T

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I was wondering if the Oilers actually interviewed someone from the outside world, or if they just promoted Scott?

Like they just decided to hire an inexperienced person like Mac-T

Of course they didn't. This is the Oilers clown organization show. When they aren't making players play injured or making their players rolling around like dogs in practice they are promoting inexperienced people to higher positions.

The Mactavish hiring just proves they have an old boys club.

[EldrickOnIce]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I was wondering if the Oilers actually interviewed someone from the outside world, or if they just promoted Scott?

Like they just decided to hire an inexperienced person like Mac-T

Yeah. That^
I expect they had this planned and didn't look elsewhere. Which might make sense, last time MacT went outside the organization - and that was not a brilliant move

[Enoch Root]

best developmental team in the league - promote him before he is stolen away!