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ForeverFlameFan · 04-16-2014, 10:53 AM

Wow, no mentioning of Radim Vrbata? I think that guy should really be in the mix.. Seen him play in Phoenix, and I think he would be a good fit with Backlund and Hudler.

ComixZone · 04-16-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cali Flames Fan

Wow, did that Berra trade make you really think that Burke has supernatural trading powers? Ridiculous return for Byron's rights.

Cam Ward is a pure salary dump at this stage. It has even been said they're willing to retain salary.

6.3M cap for a back-up goalie in the NHL is ridiculous (and that's what Ward is now).

Wolfman · 04-16-2014, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ComixZone

To Carolina: RFA rights to Paul Byron
To Calgary: Cam Ward + 2nd round pick

I'd be down with that.

As far as UFAs go:

Stastny - anytime there's a top 2 centre, that is only 27 years old available for "free", you take a shot at him.
Bolland - adding a guy with a winning culture engrained into him would be a good thing for this team. His ability to play wing and centre is useful.
Downie - we're weak on the right side, and Downie adds that "edge" that we've lacked ever since Ville left town.
Jagr - he'd be lights out for Baertschi, Gaudreau, Colborne and any other of our developing wingers. He'd be great for the kids, plus I just love Jagr.

ComixZone is right

GreenLantern · 04-16-2014, 11:07 AM

Ranger is intriguing.. I haven't really heard much about him since he came back. How did he look this year? His numbers are decent.

I know before he went out for 'personal reasons' he was on the rise down in Tampa.

Roof-Daddy · 04-16-2014, 11:11 AM

Niskanen would be awesome. I LOVE a mobile D core, and.....

Giordano - Brodie
Russell - Niskanen

...would be an extremely mobile top 4 defense.

Wolfman · 04-16-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by GreenLantern

Ranger is intriguing.. I haven't really heard much about him since he came back. How did he look this year? His numbers are decent.

I know before he went out for 'personal reasons' he was on the rise down in Tampa.

I'd rather have Butler than Ranger.

The Fonz · 04-16-2014, 11:16 AM

Bolland - in the 3.5 - 3.95 range. If he's looking for 4+ then no.
Niskanen - 5.75m per for 5 years
Greene - 2m per for 3 years
Moulson - at 6.25m per for 5 years

Projected Lineup Next Year

Moulson - Monahan - Colborne
Baertschi - Backlund - Hudler
Glencross - Stajan - Bolland
Bouma - M. Reinhart - McGrattan
Extras: Granlund, Byron

Giordano-Brodie
Russell - Niskanen
Smid -Greene
Wotherspoon

Ramo
(Backup)

Buyout/Trade: Wideman, Jones

Hatter · 04-16-2014, 11:19 AM

Throw money at Stastny and Niskanen. Can never have too many centres and mobile defensemen.

ForeverFlameFan · 04-16-2014, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Bolland - in the 3.5 - 3.95 range. If he's looking for 4+ then no.
Niskanen - 5.75m per for 5 years
Greene - 2m per for 3 years
Moulson - at 6.25m per for 5 years

Projected Lineup Next Year

Moulson - Monahan - Colborne
Baertschi - Backlund - Hudler
Glencross - Stajan - Bolland
Bouma - M. Reinhart - McGrattan
Extras: Granlund, Byron

Giordano-Brodie
Russell - Niskanen
Smid -Greene
Wotherspoon

Ramo
(Backup)

Buyout/Trade: Wideman, Jones

I think we are trying to avoid the long-term deals.

Also, there is no way Greene takes an approximate 33% pay cut.

sureLoss · 04-16-2014, 11:22 AM

I have a feeling that Burke would consider Downie as one of those "rat" players he doesn't want on his team.

dino7c · 04-16-2014, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

Bolland - in the 3.5 - 3.95 range. If he's looking for 4+ then no.
Niskanen - 5.75m per for 5 years
Greene - 2m per for 3 years
Moulson - at 6.25m per for 5 years

Projected Lineup Next Year

Moulson - Monahan - Colborne
Baertschi - Backlund - Hudler
Glencross - Stajan - Bolland
Bouma - M. Reinhart - McGrattan
Extras: Granlund, Byron

Giordano-Brodie
Russell - Niskanen
Smid -Greene
Wotherspoon

Ramo
(Backup)

Buyout/Trade: Wideman, Jones

Moulson long term at over 6M per? I think you are drinking Molson's

Wolfman · 04-16-2014, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

I have a feeling that Burke would consider Downie as one of those "rat" players he doesn't want on his team.

True, but I'm on the fence with that one. He might be a good fit though, and I've said I wouldn't like him in Flames jersey.

PeteMoss · 04-16-2014, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by sureLoss

I have a feeling that Burke would consider Downie as one of those "rat" players he doesn't want on his team.

He might not like 'rats' but he's had his fair share of them on his teams.

Rick M. · 04-16-2014, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by hatter

throw money at stastny and niskanen. Can never have too many centres and mobile defensemen.

this!

SHOGUN · 04-16-2014, 11:37 AM

Although adding Downie would add some 'bite' to this team, he carries too much negative baggage with him that I don't want near our team.

N-E-B · 04-16-2014, 11:39 AM

I think Joey Mac will be back as a back-up next year.

Jagr makes sense for Calgary, but I don't see why Calgary would make sense for Jagr.

No thanks to Setoguchi.

I'd love a guy like Moulson but he's best friends with Tavares. I can see him going back to New York.

Another guy I wouldn't mind is Bolland, but his asking price will be high and I don't know if he's going to be worth it.

flamesfan55 · 04-16-2014, 11:44 AM

I am surprised there isn't more Hiller love?

heep223 · 04-16-2014, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoutski

Just in defence of Jagr and why he might be so appealing:

a) He had 67 (82GP) points this year, our highest point scorer was Hudler with 54 (75GP).
b) He is an absolutely insane fitness freak, has to be to be in that shape at 42, this is a great example for young players.
c) He has been working with one-year deals only, this works perfectly for us.
d) He would get top line minutes and top minutes on the PP which is his incentive to come here, we aren't exactly super deep in RW depth and as a one-year stopgap he seems to be a great choice to help us be competitive next year.

I still think he's going to NJ again which is a shame, but I would love the hell out of him here.

EDIT: I don't have any solid evidence to support it, but I've read reports that he is a great guy to have in the room and works closely with young guys, seems like good news for us.

We can agree to disagree

. I'd rather see our young guys develop than be competitive next year (I think both can happen). But I'm making the assumption that Jagr would mess up the chemistry, I guess it is possible he could integrate and add to it. I just think that no matter how could of a guy he is, in the longer run it'd be detrimental to our rebuild. Anyways like you're saying it's kind of moot because I don't think he would come either.

codynw · 04-16-2014, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by flamesfan55

I am surprised there isn't more Hiller love?

Ramo earned the starting job, no need to find another starter. All they need to do is bring in a capable backup.

The Fonz · 04-16-2014, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ForeverFlameFan

Also, there is no way Greene takes an approximate 33% pay cut.

He's a 31yo, 3rd pairing Dman who's played a total of 43 games over the last 2 seasons.

Yeah he'll probably get more than 2m on the open market, but I can't see him getting the 3.25m he made in 2013/14.

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Originally Posted by dino7c

Moulson long term at over 6M per? I think you are drinking Molson's

His last 4 seasons he's averaged .37 goals/game + .39 assists/game. Pro-rated over 82 games is 30 goals + 32 assists.

Has only missed 4 games over those 4 years due to injury. 30 years old.

What does your sober brain think he's worth?