[News] Kevin Hayes signs with the Rangers

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I see what you're saying now... your first post made it sound like it would only be a 4th.

Maybe someone can clear this up - how was the Corban Knight situation different? Is the compensation (54th overall in the case of Hayes) determined by the original draft slot of the player?

Hayes is a former 1st round pick.

The CBA gives teams a compensatory 2nd round pick if they are unable to sign a former 1st round pick.

Knight as a former 5th round pick wouldn't give Florida anything.

[theoforever]

Funny that we were going nuts about Johnny not signing with us and now we are all over Hayes. From Hayes perspective, they traded his brother so not much love for Chicago. Plus, the Chicago depth is scary so can't blame him. Odds are he goes to Florida but we should try to sign him.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by iggysback05

This seems to be one of those items of principle for Burke. Kind of like his Christmas trade freeze and refusal to put in an offer sheet. I doubt he'd try and sign him once he becomes a UFA. I think he trades for him if he's interested.

Agreed. Decide if you want him - if you do then make a deal (provided you have some assurance he will sign).

[IgiTang]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

I've never seen Hayes play before Thursday's Frozen Four game, and I was not at all impressed. He was a big time puck hog when he easily could've created a cycle or fed it to the point. He turned the puck over a ton as well.

I will admit, it was just one game and he's clearly better than that, but he left a pretty underwhelming first impression on me.

I agree. I've watched him a couple times and it seems that line focuses on Hayes as the shooter, regardless of how much room Gaudreau has, Hayes doesn't send the pass back once Gaudreau gets setup in the O-zone on the PP.

The guy does have an absolute bomb of a shot tho.

[Vinny01]

Hayes fills a need on the Flames so I hope we can get him but I think Florida has the inside track with the GM that drafted him in charge and his brother in the organization.

[Brannigans Law]

Hayes could be a real coup for the Flames speed things up rebuild wise. This is the kind of luck a team needs to get through the wall. Very interesting and exciting.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think Feaster needs to trade a 5th for Hayes, better for the hawks than lose him or nothing. Then after the game Sunday send Johnny to abbotsford for their playoff run.

Johnny and Arnold. Why you show no love for good ol Billy?

[JohnnyT]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think Feaster needs to trade a 5th for Hayes, better for the hawks than lose him or nothing. Then after the game Sunday send Johnny to abbotsford for their playoff run.

Chicago would get a 2nd if he walked so a fifth won't do it
Johnny can't go to abby because he signed a deal for this year and wasn't on the heat roster by trade deadline day. Same with Billy.

We really need a prospect & cba FAQ to pop before posting these days

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think Feaster needs to trade a 5th for Hayes, better for the hawks than lose him or nothing. Then after the game Sunday send Johnny to abbotsford for their playoff run.

Then what do you do with Arnold? Send him back to college for his overage year?

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by JohnnyT

Chicago would get a 2nd if he walked so a fifth won't do it
Johnny can't go to abby because he signed a deal for this year and wasn't on the heat roster by trade deadline day. Same with Billy.

We really need a prospect & cba FAQ to pop before posting these days

Can Giordano be sent down? What about Monahan since he is still in the first year of his ELC?

[FBI]

THIS is why we were all paranoid about Gaudreau. Wonder if hawks fans are pissed.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by FBI

THIS is why we were all paranoid about Gaudreau. Wonder if hawks fans are pissed.

Early reaction I am gathering is they seem nonplussed about it.

Most of them view Hayes as an average prospect with upside, but they have a lot of forward depth.

Unlike if the Flames were to lose Gaudreau, they are still getting a 2nd round pick.

[Cheerio]

He's not worth a second and I don't think any team will give up a 2nd for him. The smart move for the Blackhawks and the team that wants to acquire him is wait for UFA

[krynski]

Originally Posted by ClubFlames

Can Giordano be sent down? What about Monahan since he is still in the first year of his ELC?

why would you even want to? and no.

[jemjey]

Originally Posted by krynski

why would you even want to? and no.

i'm gonna guess that it was a joke...

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Cheerio

He's not worth a second and I don't think any team will give up a 2nd for him. The smart move for the Blackhawks and the team that wants to acquire him is wait for UFA

This might be the most likely scenario.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Hayes was a Tallon draft pick. Tallon loves acquiring his former players.

actually Tallon was already GM in Florida when Hayes was drafted by Chicago in 2010

only thing that works in favour of the Panthers is that they traded for his brother

[Pierre "Monster" McGuire]

Originally Posted by fotze

I think Feaster needs to trade a 5th for Hayes, better for the hawks than lose him or nothing. Then after the game Sunday send Johnny to abbotsford for their playoff run.

HA! Clearly no one on here knows fotze's humour.

[Matty81]

He's not going anywhere until August I bet, the price will be a 2nd minimum and that is too high a price to pay for a 4 month negotiating window with him when you can get him for free by waiting.

Plus from his end a bidding war on the open market only helps him.

[sureLoss]

Looks like he is pissed at the Hawks about his brother:

Guy Flaming ‏@TPS_Guy 23m
Paraphrasing @CHN_AdamWodon here but "friction" stemming from the Hawks trading Jimmy Hayes. It's Adam's story though @Sebmono @coreypronman