06-01-2006, 10:30 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
That is your definition. Your words. You said it isn't right to pass judgement on someones moral beliefs. If you don't like me quoting you and using what you say against you I suggest you set the record straight. You seem to have a lot of problems doing that.
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Good one. Really good one. Saying it is wrong to tell someone else that their morals are screwed up, serves as a perfect definition of the difference between right and wrong.
But thanks again for avoiding my question. 
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06-01-2006, 10:32 PM
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#62
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Originally Posted by Azure
I won't answer what is "wrong" with it, but I agree with the notion based on equal rights.
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Geez you are pretty shifty on this subject. You agree with the notion based on equal rights, but you think it's wrong based on some reason so inflammatory that you won't even mention it.
Just for fun, and for a little clarification, I'll ask this one simple question:
Same-sex marriage should be
A) legal
B) illegal
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06-01-2006, 10:33 PM
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#63
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
Do you believe that people can be "Born Gay"?
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Yes I believe people can be born gay. Whats your point?
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06-01-2006, 10:34 PM
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#64
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Geez you are pretty shifty on this subject. You agree with the notion based on equal rights, but you think it's wrong based on some reason so inflammatory that you won't even mention it.
Just for fun, and for a little clarification, I'll ask this one simple question:
Same-sex marriage should be
A) legal
B) illegal
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Where exactly am I shify on this subject? Must be hard for you to understand that someone does not agree with the idea of same-sex marriage, but still agrees with the idea of equal rights.
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06-01-2006, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
Where exactly am I shify on this subject? Must be hard for you to understand that someone does not agree with the idea of same-sex marriage, but still agrees with the idea of equal rights.
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Come on now.
A) legal
B) illegal
If you don't answer with A or B then you just know you are being shifty.
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06-01-2006, 10:39 PM
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I believe in the Pony Power
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Originally Posted by Azure
Where exactly am I shify on this subject? Must be hard for you to understand that someone does not agree with the idea of same-sex marriage, but still agrees with the idea of equal rights.
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I don't give care about your feelings about equal rights. I am purely interested in trying to understand people that think gay marriage is wrong and why? The fact that you are unable or unwilling to even answer that question doesn't help your cause.
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06-01-2006, 10:41 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Come on now.
A) legal
B) illegal
If you don't answer with A or B then you just know you are being shifty.
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A.
Why? Because people deserve equal rights.
Happy?
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06-01-2006, 10:43 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina
I don't give care about your feelings about equal rights. I am purely interested in trying to understand people that think gay marriage is wrong and why? The fact that you are unable or unwilling to even answer that question doesn't help your cause.
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And I'm not going to answer that question because I don't want to start a flame-fest on CP. Especially if you have certain posters here that refuse to answer my simple questions. 
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06-01-2006, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
A.
Why? Because people deserve equal rights.
Happy?
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Sheesh. After all that you and I agreed all along.
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06-01-2006, 10:46 PM
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Had an idea!
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Sheesh. After all that you and I agreed all along.
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06-02-2006, 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Azure
And I'm not going to answer that question because I don't want to start a flame-fest on CP. Especially if you have certain posters here that refuse to answer my simple questions. |
You can do a search and see this topic has come up a few times; a number of them before the last federal election.
And since this is going to come up for a free vote this fall, I'm sure it will be dabated a few more times.
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06-02-2006, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bobblehead
You can do a search and see this topic has come up a few times; a number of them before the last federal election.
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Somehow I really don't see it as being a free vote. There won't be any public maneuvers, but I'm sure the underlying message will be "Tow the party line or else."
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06-02-2006, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Somehow I really don't see it as being a free vote. There won't be any public maneuvers, but I'm sure the underlying message will be "Tow the party line or else."
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In the Liberal camp I could see that. I don't think Harper will do that. It'll totally destroy his efforts to show that a free vote is actually free.
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06-02-2006, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by calculoso
In the Liberal camp I could see that. I don't think Harper will do that. It'll totally destroy his efforts to show that a free vote is actually free.
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Actually I was thinking it'd be the other way around. The Liberals are going to be looking to show that they aren't all the same, so they can't all be associated with the scandals. The Conservatives on the other hand have an agenda, there's going to be questions of unity in the governing part if they don't all agree. I'm willing to make a bet that no Conservative MPs vote against Harper on this one.
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06-02-2006, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Actually I was thinking it'd be the other way around. The Liberals are going to be looking to show that they aren't all the same, so they can't all be associated with the scandals. The Conservatives on the other hand have an agenda, there's going to be questions of unity in the governing part if they don't all agree. I'm willing to make a bet that no Conservative MPs vote against Harper on this one.
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I'll take that bet.
25$ to CP? heh.
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06-02-2006, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by CaramonLS
I'll take that bet.
25$ to CP? heh.
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Done.
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06-02-2006, 04:24 PM
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Oooooooo! It's on! $25 to CP for the loser! To the winner infinite glory!
(sorry... they're letting us drink while we work)
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06-02-2006, 05:13 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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The only thing I am worried about is if Polygamy is legallized, do we start down a slippery slope where since Polygamists claim that they have a right to marry as many people as they want, are the Kiddy Ticklers going to come out and say it is their right to view whatever they want.
Thats what I am worried about.
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06-02-2006, 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor
The only thing I am worried about is if Polygamy is legallized, do we start down a slippery slope where since Polygamists claim that they have a right to marry as many people as they want, are the Kiddy Ticklers going to come out and say it is their right to view whatever they want.
Thats what I am worried about.
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Well anyone can say they have the right to just about anything you can think of, but that doesn't mean they actually do have that right.
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06-02-2006, 05:23 PM
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos
Well anyone can say they have the right to just about anything you can think of, but that doesn't mean they actually do have that right.
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Thanks for that.
I dont trust the courts as much as you I guess.
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