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Russia warns the US it may revise it's stance on Iran's nuclear program if tensions over Ukraine aren't resolved. Just implying this got me thinking about whole lot of foreign headaches that Russia can start up with the West over Crimea. Cutting off European gas, supplying Iran with more nuclear tech, selling arms to West unfriendly states, etc. I'm pretty sure Russia's economy will survive the affair though.
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Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov said, according to the Interfax news agency, that Russia didn't want to use the Iranian nuclear talks to "raise the stakes," but may have to do so in response to the actions by the United States and the European Union.
Russia warns the US it may revise it's stance on Iran's nuclear program if tensions over Ukraine aren't resolved. Just implying this got me thinking about whole lot of foreign headaches that Russia can start up with the West over Crimea. Cutting off European gas, supplying Iran with more nuclear tech, selling arms to West unfriendly states, etc. I'm pretty sure Russia's economy will survive the affair though.
Russia warns the US it may revise it's stance on Iran's nuclear program if tensions over Ukraine aren't resolved. Just implying this got me thinking about whole lot of foreign headaches that Russia can start up with the West over Crimea. Cutting off European gas, supplying Iran with more nuclear tech, selling arms to West unfriendly states, etc. I'm pretty sure Russia's economy will survive the affair though.
An interesting perspective on the motivation behind the defense of the Black Sea port:
"The above brings us to the current Western perception of the Ukrainian crisis. Most of the people we speak to see the crisis as troublesome because it may lead to restlessness amongst the Russian minorities scattered across Eastern Europe and Central Asia, and tempt further border encroachments across a region that remains highly unstable. This is of course a perfectly valid fear, though it must be noted that, throughout history, there have been few constants to the inhabitants of the Kremlin (or of the Winter Palace before then). But nonetheless, one could count on Russia’s elite to:
a) Care deeply about maintaining access to warm-water seaports and
b) Care little for the welfare of the average Russian
So, it therefore seems likely that the fact that Russia is eager to redraw the borders around Crimea has more to do with the former than the latter. And that the Crimean incident does not mean that Putin will try and absorb Russian minorities into a “Greater Russia” wherever those minorities may be. The bigger question is that having secured Russia’s access to Sevastopol, and Tartus, will Russia use these ports to influence the Shia-Sunni conflict directly, and the oil price indirectly?"
Anyone else find it sad that this story is starting to be overshadowed by a missing plane. The repercussions and what happens next could be a prelude to war and a new cold war.
Anyone else find it sad that this story is starting to be overshadowed by a missing plane. The repercussions and what happens next could be a prelude to war and a new cold war.
I'm with you Thor, what is the mood like in Iceland where your much closer to the situation than we are?
Anyone else find it sad that this story is starting to be overshadowed by a missing plane. The repercussions and what happens next could be a prelude to war and a new cold war.
I'm sure all it would take is a crazy Miley Cyrus story to bump it all off the front page.
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Russia warns the US it may revise it's stance on Iran's nuclear program if tensions over Ukraine aren't resolved. Just implying this got me thinking about whole lot of foreign headaches that Russia can start up with the West over Crimea. Cutting off European gas, supplying Iran with more nuclear tech, selling arms to West unfriendly states, etc. I'm pretty sure Russia's economy will survive the affair though.
This assumes Russia doesnt already deal with Iran and other unfriendly states. Which given the fact that Russia is populated by alot of Russians leaves alot uknown variables.
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I'm with you Thor, what is the mood like in Iceland where your much closer to the situation than we are?
Well there is more acceptance of Crimea belonging to Russia than I would have expected, but there seems to be a real worry of Russia not stopping there, Belarus and other nations are all very concerned.
If the worst that comes out of this is we lose Crimea to Russia, consider it a good day.
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I think a lot of people are underestimating how quickly some of the Scandinavian countries would offer to facilitate NATO if Russia were to go after Estonia. Norway is already a member and there has been talk of Sweden joining up if Russia continues its push. The Finnish have also been pretty vocal in their criticism of Putin. Between those countries and the Eastern members of Poland, Latvia, and Lithuania, you'd think NATO would have enough strategic points around the Baltic to push Russia out of Estonia.
Well there is more acceptance of Crimea belonging to Russia than I would have expected, but there seems to be a real worry of Russia not stopping there, Belarus and other nations are all very concerned.
If the worst that comes out of this is we lose Crimea to Russia, consider it a good day.
Agreed...
My thoughts on this turn to one question "Do the majority of people in Crimea want to go back to Russia?"
If so, then the goal has to just make any further expansion of Russia much too costly to Putin and his oligarch thugs
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Hate to say it but it's probably going take a military threat to get Putin to back off, he's a bully and that's the only thing he understands.
Move a couple of F-22 raptor squadrons into Turkey,Romania and Greece and do a couple low flyby's in the Black Sea, pop a couple of ohio class Subs up for a look in the Marmara Sea and make sure the Russian's see a couple of bad ass carriers within striking distance as well.
You simply can't allow this turd to run around Europe taking lands/countries and threatening to arm ###### countries like Iran with nukes. Tell him, get out and go home or we'll push you home.
