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Old 03-19-2014, 06:42 PM   #621
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This says to me many people in Alberta will go to great extremes to keep down the Wild Rosers.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:42 PM   #622
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Smith really laid into Redford in her presser. Good response, IMO.... but I haven't been following this terribly closely.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:44 PM   #623
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Hopefully the other parties step up in the next election, and it becomes an actual 4 way race. if alberta blindly votes in the wrp, they deserve more of were presently getting.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:45 PM   #624
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Just watched Redford's speech. For the first 5 minutes I thought she was accepting an Oscar.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:48 PM   #625
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Yeah but that strategy has a shelf life. People will tune out the noise eventually and it will just appear like the Wildrose is a party of whiners rather than an actual opposition. Legitimately, they have rarely spoken about policy that I can recall, mostly just trivialities like poorly arranged flight itineraries.
I suspect your predisposition toward hating the Wildrose Party is impacting your view of their overall politics. (Likewise, my predisposition toward favouring them would have the opposite in the opposite fashion). The purpose of the opposition in practice is to point out the flaws in the government's actions. And all three opposition parties have hounded the government on the balanced budget lie, spending and other policy issues as well as Redford's misallocation of funds for personal use, etc.

But most importantly, most of the damage done to Redford was from friendly fire. The Tories disintegrated from within. Nobody should be surprised when Smith, Sherman and Mason all prominently argue that point.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:49 PM   #626
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That's the BS to me, they party interest get better served than the public's interest it seems.

Maybe I'm naive here, but the people of Alberta shouldn't have to "buy a membership" to have a say in the leadership of the province. It should be an elected position, but I realize it's not.

But this is my view, like I said, may be misguided.
Most of the time the election of a party leader is not for premier. Now in the ideal process they'd elect a leader and call an election right away, but politically speaking they'd probably lose so they'll do the wise thing politically and give themselves two years to right the ship (or let the Wildrose meltdown again).
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:49 PM   #627
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This is the laziest politics that there is. If they do this, it will show that the party is an amateur party that doesn't deserve to be in a position of power. If they wanted to do something they could look into the actual policies of the PCs rather than attempt to look for minor spending incongruities and travel arrangements.
Smith has been harping on the PC's about the disaster the DRP program has been for flood victims. Or the family care centres or the amount of money being spent on Capital projects. It wasn't always about Redford as you would like to believe.
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I hope Fred Horne goes for it. I like what he did with AHS overbloated executive structure. That took some balls.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:50 PM   #629
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I am waiting for Slava to chime in on this before I can really absorb her decision to step down.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:51 PM   #630
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There's no place in the country that votes more out of fear than Alberta. Myself included. Some leader has to inspire confidence. Much more difficult than preying on fear.
Perhaps the Liberals can get their crap together one of these years. I'd really prefer not to vote for either the PC's or WRP. If it came down to it though, I'd pretty much vote for anyone to keep the WRP out of power. A vote for them is a vote for First Lady's husband.
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I hope Fred Horne goes for it. I like what he did with AHS overbloated executive structure. That took some balls.
I've talked to him in person and he would be my choice also.
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Yeah but that strategy has a shelf life. People will tune out the noise eventually and it will just appear like the Wildrose is a party of whiners rather than an actual opposition. Legitimately, they have rarely spoken about policy that I can recall, mostly just trivialities like poorly arranged flight itineraries.

You need to open your ears then....the WRP have been HAMMERING Redfod on policy for months now.
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For the distant twitterdom this was not about Redford's Mandela funeral costs, it was about Redford's attitude about everything.
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Old 03-19-2014, 06:57 PM   #634
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Such a sideshow, I hate that politics has been reduced to worrying about irrelevant nonsense. This entire trip expense scandal has had 100 times the coverage verses the budget and any issues that matter.
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Just think...Alberta Liberals and then Federal Liberals!
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Didn't think the province could be in worse hands than that bumbling idiot Stelmach. Redford is a dolled-up thug. Alberta is in need of leadership that we haven't seen in a long time (Klein, despite his faults).
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Didn't think the province could be in worse hands than that bumbling idiot Stelmach. Redford is a dolled-up thug. Alberta is in need of leadership that we haven't seen in a long time (Klein, despite his faults).
Voting in your 3rd choice for a leader doesn't help. PC's need to change the way they pick a leader.
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Yeah but that strategy has a shelf life. People will tune out the noise eventually and it will just appear like the Wildrose is a party of whiners rather than an actual opposition. Legitimately, they have rarely spoken about policy that I can recall, mostly just trivialities like poorly arranged flight itineraries.
You actually don't read the news or watch it do you, you just spout out whatever follows your viewpoint that echos in that brain of yours.

Yes Wildrose has hammered the PC party, but they have hammered the government in terms of the budget and health care policies and other policies.

They've talked lots of policies if you'd actually do some research.
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Old 03-19-2014, 07:07 PM   #640
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The is what happens when you choose 3rd place to lead your party...again. Change the god damn electoral system already. Jim Dinning would still be the boss.

edit: They have since changed the system so it gets down to 2 and then there's a vote.

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