[News] Missing OHL Player Found Dead

[N-E-B]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

There is virtually no chance that he took his life over this issue. People suffering from Mood Disorders have issues that go much deeper than a suspension from a hockey club. He likely struggled with demons since early childhood.

Has it been confirmed he took his own life yet? I assume he did, but I haven't seen an official cause of death yet.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Very sad to hear.

Hope Monahan is doing alright, they were former teammates

Where was that?

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

Not every person that struggles with depression wants help, is ready for help or knows how to handle help. He could have all the support in the world, but in the end it's up to him to accept it.

There is still a pretty big stigma surrounding any type of mental health issue in North America. It's unfortunate, and people would be more willing to seek help if it was more acceptable to do so.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Has it been confirmed he took his own life yet? I assume he did, but I haven't seen an official cause of death yet.

I read an article where he basically told his girlfriend that he "couldn't take it no more" and said goodbye.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

When you suffer from severe depression anything can be the trigger, no matter how small or trivial it seems to everyone else to that person it can feel like the end of the world.

Not trying to snoop, but have you ever suffered from a Mood Disorder? Just curious.

[Northendzone]

rotten ending to this story.......

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by nik-

Tragic. I bet if he would have gotten drunk and into a fight outside some bar he probably wouldn't have been kicked off the team. But the demon weed and out he goes.

I thought I read somewhere that he wasn't kicked off the team, he was just sent home and suspended. Either way he obviously took it very hard.

[Delthefunky]

Originally Posted by T@T

Where was that?

Sean Monahan ‏@Monahan20 15h
Absolutely horrible news about Terry Trafford. Played with him and against in minor hockey. Great guy, prayers out to his family

I mistook your question... it must have been minor hockey somewhere, looks like Trafford played in Saginaw his whole junior career.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Not trying to snoop, but have you ever suffered from a Mood Disorder? Just curious.

To elaborate on what he's saying, events like that really can have a detrimental effect. Even if you have your depression under control, something like what happened to him could easily trigger a bad spell, and while this may not have ended up this way specifically because of his hockey situation, it likely played a factor.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by T@T

Where was that?

not sure but Monahan said they played together on his twitter

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

Not trying to snoop, but have you ever suffered from a Mood Disorder? Just curious.

I have suffered from severe depression. I went 10+ years afraid to seek help and often the smaller things are when felt like was piling up.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Delthefunky

Sean Monahan ‏@Monahan20 15h
Absolutely horrible news about Terry Trafford. Played with him and against in minor hockey. Great guy, prayers out to his family

I mistook your question... it must have been minor hockey somewhere, looks like Trafford played in Saginaw his whole junior career.

I think it was probably in minor hockey, considering that's what Monahan's tweet said.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by Alberta_Beef

not sure but Monahan said they played together on his twitter

I have suffered from severe depression. I went 10+ years afraid to seek help and often the smaller things are when felt like was piling up.

I can relate...it certainly changes my thought process if I don't do the right things (exercise, social circle, work productively, avoid alcohol, etc).

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Jets4Life

I can relate...it certainly changes my thought process if I don't do the right things (exercise, social circle, work productively, avoid alcohol, etc).

Definitely, I really try to use topics like this to spread the word because people do care, there is just so many false notions out there about depression and if I can help 1 person even understand it better, then maybe my suffering was for some reason.

[bigtmac19]

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/12...ng-for-answers

Seems like a terrible way for the Spirit to have handled this situation. I hope his Dad gets some answers from the team over it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

http://www.torontosun.com/2014/03/12...ng-for-answers

Seems like a terrible way for the Spirit to have handled this situation. I hope his Dad gets some answers from the team over it.

It's sounds like hockey wasn't taking him where he had hoped and he was totally at a loss of what else was out there for him. It is really too bad.

Just wondering, but do junior teams have counseling and career services for players that aren't good enough to go pro? I imagine it is a devastating realization for a young adult when they know they aren't on the path that everyone thought or hoped they would be. These kids often get built up so high, that the fall is bigger than what a 20 year should experience.

[bigtmac19]

I'm not referring to that so much as to the fact that the team at first told his Dad he would be welcome back, then they text the Dad that he is off the team, but give him no explanation and now won't return the poor man's phone calls or explain what happened in the interim.

[moon]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

It's sounds like hockey wasn't taking him where he had hoped and he was totally at a loss of what else was out there for him. It is really too bad.

Just wondering, but do junior teams have counseling and career services for players that aren't good enough to go pro? I imagine it is a devastating realization for a young adult when they know they aren't on the path that everyone thought or hoped they would be. These kids often get built up so high, that the fall is bigger than what a 20 year should experience.

I know teams have team psychologists but whether they are there to work on team building/visualization/optimizing performance etc. I am not sure.

It would be pretty tough to imagine the teams or leagues wouldn't have some sort of counselling services available to players whether for on ice, off ice, hockey related or not.

[bigtmac19]

I know on the Windsor news last night they interviewed a former Spitfire captain and he said there definitely was counselling available to players if they needed it. How many would take advantage though - that's a whole different question.

It might depend on the management and how they stress to players to feel free to use services like that, or maybe they don't have a good culture of understanding about it.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by bigtmac19

I know on the Windsor news last night they interviewed a former Spitfire captain and he said there definitely was counselling available to players if they needed it. How many would take advantage though - that's a whole different question.

It might depend on the management and how they stress to players to feel free to use services like that, or maybe they don't have a good culture of understanding about it.

Yeah, I imagine that it would be awkward for a coach or GM to go up to a player and be like; "Hey, have you thought about what you are going to do after this? Because it doesn't look like you will be making a living as a hockey player...".

But if it's just up to the player (or the player's family) to step up and request the counseling, then I can see many just not taking advantage of it as it would seem like admitting failure (not to mention the denial aspect). According to the girlfriend, he wasn't in denial... he knew his hockey career wasn't going anywhere.

Not that I am trying to simplify his depression as just "life not working out how he planned", but it sounds like it did play a roll.

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Yeah, I imagine that it would be awkward for a coach or GM to go up to a player and be like; "Hey, have you thought about what you are going to do after this? Because it doesn't look like you will be making a living as a hockey player..."

Some coaches do do this but not enough, I imagine. It's tough because, whether we admit or not, the whole system is geared to finding those few exceptional talents.