Rich Peverley Collapses on Bench

[Super Nintendo Chalmers]

Guys that reach that level of achievement have a lot of drive. Sometimes it's a bad thing.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by fotze

If thats true, not sure if that is courageous or the most ######ed thing I have ever heard. Chalk that up to not thinking straight, but I hope the machismo of hockey does't run that deep.

As someone who was told at a young age to never, ever play competitive sports by the cardiologist, this incident freaks me the fack out.

I won't chalk that up to machismo, just a lack of an individuals awareness of his current state of health. I don't want to call it shock but it's surely in that realm of terminology.

[devo22]

could also be related to shock or something like that. I once crashed badly at skiing and broke my arm in three places, but somehow all I did was put my skis back on and head for the lift again before my brother stopped me. Couldn't explain my behaviour rationally afterwards. Not trying to compare situations at all, just saying that extraordinary situations don't always make you think logically and maybe sometimes, if you're yourself affected, you don't see the severity of a situation that others do.

[Acey]

That ~15 seconds where the Dallas bench is freaking out trying to get the game stopped is freakin scary. I don't even want to watch that part again.

[dammage79]

There is a different definition for it than shock. I am almost certain. But I'm also no wordsmith.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by dammage79

There is a different definition for it than shock. I am almost certain. But I'm also no wordsmith.

pretty sure there is. That's why I said "or something like that"

[thefoss1957]

Very odd situation for a pro athlete, in that, almost all A-Fib patients are treated,long term, with anticoagulants. For a hockey player, already at high risk for incidental cuts and bruises, this can cause major problems. Recurring fib episodes, which Peverley seems to have, are also treated by ablation of the damaged heart tissue, that is messing up the electrical transmission of auto muscle contraction. A permanent pacemaker is common. It would be rare, indeed, to see a pro athlete continue a career, artificially paced. Certainly, Peverley will have some difficult challenges to overcome. I wish him the best.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by Acey

That ~15 seconds where the Dallas bench is freaking out trying to get the game stopped is freakin scary. I don't even want to watch that part again.

Felt like forever and the players had to actually get on the ice for the play to stop. I realize it was a unique situation but the linesman was right there. Could have blown the whistle far earlier..

Honestly, I'm not being critical of how they handled the situation, but hindsight is always 20-20.

[M*A*S*H 4077]

Terrifying situation, hopefully he'll be alright.

Fortunately (if you can call it that) there is probably no better place to collapse than on the sideline/bench of a major sporting event.

[devo22]

The NHL released the following statement: "Dallas player Rich Peverley is doing well and is in stable condition. He has been transported to the hospital. As a result of the emotional state of the players on both teams caused by the medical emergency, the game is being postponed. We apologize for any inconvenience and we thank the fans."

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=7...id=DL|NHL|home

[Acey]

"We apologize for any inconvenience"

[Drury18]

If any sports teams, professional or amateur, are still debating about spending the money to buy an AED (Automatic Electronic Defibrillator), Rich Peverly and Jiri Fischer should be Exhibit's A & B and the end of the conversation.

[sun]

Wow, glad that he is conscious. Scary ####.

Hope his career can continue.

[Flabbibulin]

Thought i'd chime in here with my thoughts as a sufferer of A Fib- which appears to be what Peverley is dealing with. For anyone interested...

I have had issues with A Fib since around the age of 26. When I first experienced an episode, I was incredibly fit, had never touched illegal drugs, really didn't drink alcohol, and certainly didn't smoke. No family history of heart issues. After extensive tests, it was concluded that my heart was structurally fine and this is just something I will occaionally deal with and should avoid the triggers- such as binge drinking, caffeine etc. I have been on beta blockers for several years, but the current thought by my doctor is that I could probably get off them given how rare my episodes are- still, i have been shocked (cardioverted) a few times in the hospital over the years. Not a candidate for an ablation given that my episodes are quite rare.

A Fib is actually not as dangerous a condition as other arrhythmia issues- specifically those originating in the ventricles, which was the case with Jiri Fischer. The biggest concern with A Fib is a stroke, but this is typically only a concern in those that have regular/constant episodes and have other risk factors- such as diabetes, MVP, age, family history of strokes etc. Given that I have none of these risk factors and only have an episode every couple years, my risk of stroke is no greater than the general population- hopefully Peverley's episodes are equally as rare and he has no other risk factors.

All that said, because he is a pro athlete, my guess is Peverley will be looking at the option of having an ablation- a procedure that can eliminate A Fib by basically zapping the parts of the heart that cause the arrhythmia. Gustavsson has had a few ablations for a similar condition- some type of atrial arrhythmia. A fib is fairly managable in young people and there may be a good chance that Peverley can resume his career.

No need to get into it, but I went into a massive depression after being diagnosed- came to terms with it a while ago(mostly by educating myself on the condition) and really dont live any differently than the average person now.

[Azure]

We paid around $3,500 for the AED at our shop. Not sure if there are more expensive units, but its not that expensive considering it can save your life.

[Minnie]

That was a scary thing to watch. I hope he'll be ok.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by fotze

Wow, I thought those were $20k+.

I haven't looked to closely at it, but I'd imagine it only holds one charge and after that you have to replace the battery.

The units the NHL has on the benches are probably a lot bigger.

[indes]

Originally Posted by fotze

If thats true, not sure if that is courageous or the most ######ed thing I have ever heard. Chalk that up to not thinking straight, but I hope the machismo of hockey does't run that deep.

As someone who was told at a young age to never, ever play competitive sports by the cardiologist, this incident freaks me the fack out.

I had my leg sliced (and i mean sliced, got 2 layers of stitches and had about a 2 inch chunk of flesh hanging on by the skin) open by a skate during a game and I just wanted to get back in the game. Its definitely shock. Playing the next day though, that was the hockey machismo kicking in It was playoffs!

[Flabbibulin]

Just a note, although a medical professional can correct me if I am wrong- An AED will not work on someone dealing with an episode of A Fib. I believe they only generate a shock on those in V Tach, V Fib, or Cardiac Arrest. I believe the AED will pick up on the type of arrhythmia present and will only shock if it is a ventricular arrhythmia or cardiac arrest.

Cardioversion (a milder shock that is given manually) is used to treat A Fib obviously, which it sounds like Peverley received at the hospital or in the ambulance.

This is my understanding, but I may be wrong. AEDs are obviously very important and necessary regardless.

edit- got some support info from Dr Love for what it is worth. http://www.justanswer.com/medical/6e...tion-vfib.html

[thefoss1957]

Originally Posted by fotze

I love CP for these insights from people who are obviously educated. You could be just making up stuff but it sounds pretty smart to me. Thanks.

Thefoss, nuclearfart and the machiavelli's, I have a lot of time for their posts.

I am a Pharmacist with 35 years of Hospital experience, so, no, I am NOT making it up!

But Thanks for the kind words