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Old 01-24-2014, 10:04 AM   #141
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I had no idea that two of our top prospects were also figure skaters. Thank you TSN for the misleading headline.

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http://flames.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=706975

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Calgary Flames prospect Jon Gillies is one of the 18 nominees for the inaugural Mike Richter Award, honouring the most outstanding goaltender in NCAA men's hockey.

Gillies, who was the Flames third round pick in 2012, is in his sophomore season with Providence College. He is 14-7-5 this season with a 2.23 GAA and a .926 save percentage. Earlier in the year he became the Friars all-time leader in shutouts when he posted his eighth shutout in his collegiate career.

The other nominees are seniors Sam Brittain (Denver), Aaron Crandall (Minnesota Duluth), Andy Iles (Cornell), Martin Ouellette (Maine), Steven Summerhays (Notre Dame) and Jason Torf (Air Force); juniors Ryan Faragher (St. Cloud State), C.J. Motte (Ferris State), Joel Rumpel (Wisconsin), Jimmy Sarjeant (Mercyhurst), Colin Stevens (Union) and Clay Witt (Northeastern); sophomores Connor Hellebuyck (UMass Lowell), Jake Hildebrand (Michigan State) and Adam Wilcox (Minnesota); and freshmen Thatcher Demko (Boston College) and Zach Nagelvoort (Michigan).
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1 out of 18 eh? I like his chances.
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Quickly scanning through that list and I only see a few names that might give him some competition. Then again I don't follow college hockey too closely. Anyone with greater insight want to fill a brother in?
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Quickly scanning through that list and I only see a few names that might give him some competition. Then again I don't follow college hockey too closely. Anyone with greater insight want to fill a brother in?
if it's anything like the Hobey Baker then Seniors will get preferential treatment
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Gillies had a nice weekend posting a .940 over 2 games and helping the Friars lock in 3rd(?) spot in the playoffs.

Just the kind of rebound I've been waiting for.
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PC Men's Hockey @FriarsHockey
Congrats to Jon Gillies, who was named the @hockey_east Defensive Player of the Week (2-0-0 at Maine, .940 save percentage and a 2.00 GAA)!
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Quickly scanning through that list and I only see a few names that might give him some competition. Then again I don't follow college hockey too closely. Anyone with greater insight want to fill a brother in?
Personally, I think Thatcher Demko is an amazing Goalie. He's big and amazingly fast/agile and very strong in nets. Likewise Gillies is big and just as fast/agile and also very strong in nets. Currently Thatcher is ranked number one in goaltending at USCHO. I think one of the key differences between the two (at least from what I've seen) is that Gillies definitely tends to not give up as many rebounds (and I'm not saying Demko gives up tons of them...) just saying in all the games I've seen Gillies play in and all the games I've seen Demko play in, Thatcher gave up a few more than Jon.

I also think Connor Hellebuyck and Steven Summerhays are both very strong contenders. Both are very very strong goaltenders and are ALWAYS a pleasure to watch play.

I'm reading my reply....and as I look at it I realize all four of the names I mentioned are Hockey East tenders. Interesting.....was not intentional. Definitely not meant to be biased in any way.
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Wouldn't mind Flames nabbing Demko with the Avs 2nd round pick.
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Wouldn't mind Flames nabbing Demko with the Avs 2nd round pick.
same here, but I think he'll be gone at that point. Probably would have to use our own 2nd to get him.
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same here, but I think he'll be gone at that point. Probably would have to use our own 2nd to get him.
Possibly, but I am not a fan of picking a goaltender in the top 50.
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Possibly, but I am not a fan of picking a goaltender in the top 50.
oh I agree. All I'm saying is that Demko is probably a safe bet to be the first goaltender in the upcoming draft, and the first goaltender never makes it past 50. Nashville's Magnus Hellberg was drafted #38 in 2011 ... in every other draft in the past 20 years, the first goaltender was drafted earlier than that.

1994 - # 7 - LAK - Jamie Storr
1995 - #13 - HAR - Jean-Sebastien Giguere
1996 - #23 - PIT - Craig Hillier
1997 - # 4 - NYI - Roberto Luongo
1998 - #14 - PHX - Patrick DesRochers
1999 - # 6 - NSH - Brian Finley
2000 - # 1 - NYI - Rick DiPietro
2001 - # 8 - CBJ - Pascal Leclaire
2002 - # 2 - ATL - Kari Lehtonen
2003 - # 1 - PIT - Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 - # 6 - NYR - Al Montoya
2005 - # 5 - MTL - Carey Price
2006 - #11 - LAK - Jonathan Bernier
2007 - #36 - PHX - Joel Gistedt
2008 - #18 - NSH - Chet Pickard
2009 - #31 - NYI - Mikko Koskinen
2010 - #11 - DAL - Jack Campbell
2011 - #38 - NSH - Magnus Hellberg
2012 - #19 - TBL - Andrei Vasilevski
2013 - #36 - MTL - Zachary Fucale

McKenzie had Demko at 32 in his last update, FC even has him at 13. Could very well be a late 1st round pick IMO.
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Possibly, but I am not a fan of picking a goaltender in the top 50.
Neither is Burke. He has never drafted a goalie before the third round...

Hartford, 1992 & 1993 Drafts. 19 total picks, 1 goalie:
  • 1993 - Manny Legace, Round 8 (188 overall)

Vancouver, 1998-2003 Drafts. 54 total picks, 4 goalies:
  • 1999 - Kevin Swanson, Round 7 (189 overall)
  • 2002 - Lukas Mensator, Round 3 (83 overall)
  • 2002 - Rob McVicar, Round 5 (151 overall)
  • 2002 - Matt Violin, Round 8 (247 overall)

Anaheim, 2005-2008 Drafts. 29 total picks, 4 goalies:
  • 2005 - Jean-Philippe Levasseur, Round 7 (197 overall)
  • 2007 - Sebastian Stefaniszin, Round 4 (98 overall)
  • 2007 - Mattias Modig, Round 4 (121 overall)
  • 2008 - Marco Cousineau, Round 3 (83 overall)

Toronto, 2009-2012 Drafts. 29 total picks, 1 goalie:
  • 2011 - Garret Sparks, Round 7 (190 overall)


Burke has talked about drafting a goalie this year, but his history doesn't point to it being an early pick. If I were a betting man, I'd say the Penguins' pick in the third will be a goalie.

Demko will almost certainly be gone by then. I wouldn't be surprised to see him picked late in the first round.
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oh I agree. All I'm saying is that Demko is probably a safe bet to be the first goaltender in the upcoming draft, and the first goaltender never makes it past 50. Nashville's Magnus Hellberg was drafted #38 in 2011 ... in every other draft in the past 20 years, the first goaltender was drafted earlier than that.

1994 - # 7 - LAK - Jamie Storr
1995 - #13 - HAR - Jean-Sebastien Giguere
1996 - #23 - PIT - Craig Hillier
1997 - # 4 - NYI - Roberto Luongo
1998 - #14 - PHX - Patrick DesRochers
1999 - # 6 - NSH - Brian Finley
2000 - # 1 - NYI - Rick DiPietro
2001 - # 8 - CBJ - Pascal Leclaire
2002 - # 2 - ATL - Kari Lehtonen
2003 - # 1 - PIT - Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 - # 6 - NYR - Al Montoya
2005 - # 5 - MTL - Carey Price
2006 - #11 - LAK - Jonathan Bernier
2007 - #36 - PHX - Joel Gistedt
2008 - #18 - NSH - Chet Pickard
2009 - #31 - NYI - Mikko Koskinen
2010 - #11 - DAL - Jack Campbell
2011 - #38 - NSH - Magnus Hellberg
2012 - #19 - TBL - Andrei Vasilevski
2013 - #36 - MTL - Zachary Fucale

McKenzie had Demko at 32 in his last update, FC even has him at 13. Could very well be a late 1st round pick IMO.
I'm not disagreeing. I was just saying I would rather draft someone else than use a high pick on him.

I am partial to picking a goaltender headed the NCAA route because it gives them up them up to 4 years of development. After Demko I would look hard at Edwin Minney (US Development Program, Michigan State commit), he has excellent USHL numbers and according to central scouting is the #2 ranked goaltender
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We traded Brossoit and Berra. MacDonald is likely done with the team after this year.

I think it is a safe bet that we draft a goalie AND sign a UFA (or make a trade)
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oh I agree. All I'm saying is that Demko is probably a safe bet to be the first goaltender in the upcoming draft, and the first goaltender never makes it past 50. Nashville's Magnus Hellberg was drafted #38 in 2011 ... in every other draft in the past 20 years, the first goaltender was drafted earlier than that.

1994 - # 7 - LAK - Jamie Storr
1995 - #13 - HAR - Jean-Sebastien Giguere
1996 - #23 - PIT - Craig Hillier
1997 - # 4 - NYI - Roberto Luongo
1998 - #14 - PHX - Patrick DesRochers
1999 - # 6 - NSH - Brian Finley
2000 - # 1 - NYI - Rick DiPietro
2001 - # 8 - CBJ - Pascal Leclaire
2002 - # 2 - ATL - Kari Lehtonen
2003 - # 1 - PIT - Marc-Andre Fleury
2004 - # 6 - NYR - Al Montoya
2005 - # 5 - MTL - Carey Price
2006 - #11 - LAK - Jonathan Bernier
2007 - #36 - PHX - Joel Gistedt
2008 - #18 - NSH - Chet Pickard
2009 - #31 - NYI - Mikko Koskinen
2010 - #11 - DAL - Jack Campbell
2011 - #38 - NSH - Magnus Hellberg
2012 - #19 - TBL - Andrei Vasilevski
2013 - #36 - MTL - Zachary Fucale

McKenzie had Demko at 32 in his last update, FC even has him at 13. Could very well be a late 1st round pick IMO.
Not a very good % in terms of #1 goalies.
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I like Demko as well, but I doubt he'll be there by the time we pick with our 2nd, let alone beyond that. At the very worst, I would expect Buffalo to take him with the 31st pick as they don't really have any goalies of note in their system (Linus Ullmark being the only maybe decent one they have)
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Old 03-09-2014, 02:34 PM   #158
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Not a very good % in terms of #1 goalies.
30%

probably a pretty similar ratio to the skaters of similar draft spots

(and some of the young ones are still prospects)
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30%

probably a pretty similar ratio to the skaters of similar draft spots

(and some of the young ones are still prospects)
I'd say 2008 and later
is too soon to tell and you have to add in DiPietro too because he was an excellent starter before injuries effectively ended his career. So that percentage right now is closer to 50%
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If Gillies turns pro, I wouldn't mind having him sent to Finland for some seasoning. It seemed to work well with Ortio.
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