[News] Cammalleri has NOT been traded. Upd: Cammalleri likely heading to free agency

[combustiblefuel]

Disappointed. If you lose him for nothing that's bad. Who honestly as a GM would trade for his rights a few days before he is a UFA? The only plus to losing him to free up a contract spot and money. For a team that needs to find a way to get the higher cap. Looks like Burke is going to pay for free agents this year unless he can work a miracle at the draft.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

He probably wants a similar deal as his current one, 4-5 years for 5-6 million per year. No thanks, we've seen enough of him to know he's not worth that.

If you guys thought Cammalleri had no motivation to play before, wait until you see him for the next 5 weeks.

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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

In other words, a participation ribbon.

The market was definitely softer than most people thought, but the Flames are going to be the only team standing with the ***** in their hands. Even the Oilers took what they could get on a couple of lesser players than Cammellari.

You are assuming that the Flames didn't take what they could get. Conclusions based on assumptions aren't reasonable conclusions.

It's also possible that once the merry-go-round got going and the higher pieces got moved there wasn't anyone left that wanted Cammy, or the teams that were waiting for the log jam to clear didn't have enough time to move after it did.

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by dustygoon

This was about Burke holding his ground on price. Snow eff'd it up for everyone else by waiting. And Burke wasn't going to allow himself to get picked off by a poor last minute trade offer. Better to hold your ground than to sell out. Next time, guys will know he means what he says. Like it or not. Probably better for the long term that he didn't sell Cammy for a 2nd.

Except he shouldn't be the GM at that point. Don't disagree with now offloading Cammy if there wasn't a satisfactory deal, but a new GM should be a place so he could have different poise next year.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If you guys thought Cammalleri had no motivation to play before, wait until you see him for the next 5 weeks.

oh god no... the Flames might lose games!!!

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I would have taken the Hemsky return.

Who really thinks Mike is re-signing here?

I don't, but regardless, the options, in order of preference are:

1. Trade Cammellari for assets.
2. Re-sign Cammellari to a short term ("prove yourself") deal and trade him next year.
3. Re-sign Cammellari to a moderate term (3-4 year) deal
4. What Burke ended up with.

I'm floored. Burke is the only idiot that didn't get his job done.

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by SebC

We don't know that he hasn't been re-signed. We only know that he hasn't been traded.

That doesn't make me feel better.

[trackercowe]

Not like I am on the ledge of a building right now, but I've lost quite a bit of confidence in Burke today. He should have gotten a trade done, he waited too long for the Vanek and Moulson trades to go through, and should have been the one to break the dam like the Blue Jackets did with Gaborik.

[photon]

Originally Posted by redforever

I heard Duhatschek talking yesterday and he said the asking price was too high for teams to bite at acquiring Cammi.

I heard that too, and it's possible that was true then and true today. It could have been true yesterday and not true today.

I want to hear what Burke says about it.

[Robbob]

Originally Posted by PlayfulGenius

A 4th round pick is better than nothing.

You can get at least that at the draft or before FA starts for a team wanting to talk to a player before everyone else.

[nemanja2306]

Whatever are we going to do without a 3rd and 5th round pick we could have gotten... it's going to ruin this franchise.

[Ashasx]

Originally Posted by PeteMoss

oh god no... the Flames might lose games!!!

If we're going to lose, I'd rather a young player be in the lineup, not Cammalleri.

[nemanja2306]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

I don't, but regardless, the options, in order of preference are:

1. Trade Cammellari for assets.
2. Re-sign Cammellari to a short term ("prove yourself") deal and trade him next year.
3. Re-sign Cammellari to a moderate term (3-4 year) deal
4. What Burke ended up with.

I'm floored. Burke is the only idiot that didn't get his job done.

You know Burke can still re-sign him right?

[Serapth]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I would have taken the Hemsky return.

Who really thinks Mike is re-signing here?

Show of hands...

"Who thought Matt Stajan would be re-signed?".

Let's just say, after that signing, I dont take any re-signing for granted.



That said, this was the softest trade deadline I have ever seen. It's quite possible that no offers came in and trying to trade his rights may be the most lucrative option. How much outrage would their be if he was traded for a 3rd round pick.


Look at what other trades went through, Cammi's cap hit and more importantly, look at who else didnt get traded. The only anomaly is the Hemsky trade.


Just be glad we werent the Rangers. Of all the deals today, they got the worst of it all.

[hummdeedoo]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Not like I am on the ledge of a building right now, but I've lost quite a bit of confidence in Burke today. He should have gotten a trade done, he waited too long for the Vanek and Moulson trades to go through, and should have been the one to break the dam like the Blue Jackets did with Gaborik.

Wonder if he outsmarted himself - Guess you could say he lost the game of chicken.

[dino7c]

Snow did his job? lol he paid a top 10 pick/Moulson for Vanek and now traded him for a 2nd and average prospect a few months later

great job

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

If we're going to lose, I'd rather a young player be in the lineup, not Cammalleri.

Once you show you're going to panic and accept less if teams wait you out... they'll start doing that. Burke set the price... teams couldn't match it or come close enough to it.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by photon

You are assuming that the Flames didn't take what they could get. Conclusions based on assumptions aren't reasonable conclusions.

It's also possible that once the merry-go-round got going and the higher pieces got moved there wasn't anyone left that wanted Cammy, or the teams that were waiting for the log jam to clear didn't have enough time to move after it did.

You're right, I am making assumptions because like all of us (with the possible exception of sureloss), I'm not privy to the inner NHL circle discussions.

However, when you look at Moulson, Vanek, Legwand, Hemsky, Schultz, Callahan, et al, Burke was the only one who "ran out of time" or whatever. Then you look at Ottawa and how they dealt with Phillips (the opposite outcome of Callahan) - it was either going to be a trade or an extension... not neither. Teams like Buffalo had numerous potential deals in the air and they got a few done (Moulson, Halak, the LA Kings deal, the Miller deal) and didn't "run out of time".

Unless something comes down the wire in the next couple hours, Burke got outfoxed by Garth Snow, McTavish and the Sabres GM (with far less experience). Embarrassing.

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Originally Posted by Ashasx

If you guys thought Cammalleri had no motivation to play before, wait until you see him for the next 5 weeks.

Since Hartley's coaching... at least if he plays like crap he ~might~ not see a ton of icetime.

Was hoping we'd have some empty spots to call up some rookies though.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by nemanja2306

You know Burke can still re-sign him right?

Why resign him? Yes he may be great in the locker room but his play has dropped off. Only thing I can think of is pay him to get to the cap floor.