[News] Feaster says Iginla rejected trade to Boston

[Coach]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

The choice was given to Iginla by Darryl Sutter, when he gave Iginla a full NTC.

Because Feaster couldn't get Iginla to relinquish his NTC even partially is not his fault.

Exactly. Iginla could have chosen to not waive his NTC at all. Would it have been Feaster's fault then too?

[Tinordi]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

I'm one of them. Given the choice, he rejected Boston and chose Pittsburgh.

The mental leap people are making is that if Pittsburgh had bowed out after grabbing Morrow, that Iginla would have screwed the Flames over by refusing to go to Boston. Don't buy that for a second. If people are mad that Iginla made a choice that didn't suit them, they still need to blame Feaster for giving Iginla the choice.

They should blame King and the Owners not Feaster:

http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...postcount=1318

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You don't know that.

All I can do is refer you back to my previous post about people making an illogical leap.

What do you mean? We're hearing it from the horses mouth. Iginla rejected a trade to Boston. That's it. Once that's done there's nothing that could have been done. Iginla didn't have to submit a list and relinqish to any team. He had a full NTC. He didn't have to move at all.

[OzSome]

Shut up already Jay! It's over and done with it... move on!!

He messed up on the Iginla trade too telling Boston they have the deal before probably asking Iginla's camp.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

You don't know that.
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Actually Iginla's agent telling Feaster he might have a deal with Boston but you dont have a deal with us, is a strong indication that is exactly what happened.

[strombad]

Iginla pretty much said the exact same thing when he was on 960 the week before his first game back.

[Tinordi]

The idea that Feaster has the sole blame over the Iginla misfire implies that Feaster had sole authority over trading Iginla in the first place which just stretches any critical thinking and the official record of what King was saying at the time. The decision to trade Iginla was way out of Feaster's hands as were the parameters around the situation such as waiving of the NMC, and the likely return. The shart rolls downhill to Feaster's lap but the critical errors were made over a continuous period before Feaster took the reigns and during the trade deadline period.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Le sigh. Here we go again.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

The idea that Feaster has the sole blame over the Iginla misfire implies that Feaster had sole authority over trading Iginla in the first place which just stretches any critical thinking and the official record of what King was saying at the time. The decision to trade Iginla was way out of Feaster's hands as were the parameters around the situation such as waiving of the NMC, and the likely return. The shart rolls downhill to Feaster's lap but the critical errors were made over a continuous period before Feaster took the reigns and during the trade deadline period.

Barf.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by MattyC

What do you mean? We're hearing it from the horses mouth. Iginla rejected a trade to Boston. That's it. Once that's done there's nothing that could have been done. Iginla didn't have to submit a list and relinqish to any team. He had a full NTC. He didn't have to move at all.

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Actually Iginla's agent telling Feaster he might have a deal with Boston but you dont have a deal with us, is a strong indication that is exactly what happened.

Actually, we have Feaster making a claim. Funny how nothing Feaster ever said was taken at face value - until what he says now just happens to fit preconceptions held by certain people. Obvious confirmation bias is obvious.

Again, separate your illogical distrust/dislike/hate of Iginla, Feaster, King, whomever. If Jarome Iginla is told that there is no deal with Pittsburgh, but there is with Boston, do you think he still rejects? An answer of "yes" requires one to make assumptions of Iginla's personality that has no basis in fact.

He wanted Pittsburgh, we all know this. He knew he had the option, we all know this. He took it. Can't blame him for that in the slightest.

[Aarongavey]

Brian Burke would have gotten way more back from Pittsburgh, Brian Burke is very good at trades, he said so himself. I think Burke would have got Maata, Bennett and a 2nd for Iginla. This is in the past though, I cannot wait to see what great returns we get this year.

[direwolf]

Who cares. Why are we still talking about this?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by fotze

I can't even tell what is being argued about here.

Haha, I was just going to ask the same question.

[FlamesAddiction]

The only thing we can blame Feaster for is not getting it in writing.

According to Chiarelli at the time, it is usually normal that a player submits a list of teams and signs an official waiver document stating that the player will accept a trade to any of those teams (i.e., the player does not get a last minute pick between those teams if there is more than one offer).

Feaster seemed to be under the impression that Iginla's word was enough and thought any of the teams on his list were acceptable. He thought this was mutually understood.

So yeah, Feaster dropped the ball there, but Iginla and Meehan played him for the fool and took advantage of the situation.

[Wood]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

He wanted Pittsburgh, we all know this. He knew he had the option, we all know this. He took it. Can't blame him for that in the slightest.

Is this not exactly what sureloss is arguing? No one is saying Iggy's to blame for anything. Sureloss is arguing the fact that Feaster had a deal in place with a team on Iginlas given list, after making the deal with Boston it was then refused by Iginla. With a full NTC given to Iginla by Sutter, it was completely in his power to refuse if he wanted

Not blaming Iginla, stating that Feaster is also not to blame. He did what he could given his limited (one) option(s)

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

Actually, we have Feaster making a claim. Funny how nothing Feaster ever said was taken at face value - until what he says now just happens to fit preconceptions held by certain people. Obvious confirmation bias is obvious.

Again, separate your illogical distrust/dislike/hate of Iginla, Feaster, King, whomever. If Jarome Iginla is told that there is no deal with Pittsburgh, but there is with Boston, do you think he still rejects? An answer of "yes" requires one to make assumptions of Iginla's personality that has no basis in fact.

He wanted Pittsburgh, we all know this. He knew he had the option, we all know this. He took it. Can't blame him for that in the slightest.

I don't dislike/distrust anyone in this situation. I like Iginla, I like Feaster, I thought he did a decent job of clearing out the team, restocking the cupboards and starting the rebuild from a good spot.

So what you're saying is Feaster could have lied to the Iginla camp in order to get him to accept the deal to Boston, and thus it's his fault?

Also what are we blaming people for? Feaster had deals with two teams, Iginla chose his favorable desitination as was his right. I really don't see a grey area here.

[STAMPEDRED]

Man I like Iginla even more now. Having them tell Feaster he might have a deal with Boston but not with us is pure gold! Haha, suck it Feaster!

However, even if Iginla didn't have a solid NTC or didn't have one at all there is nothing to say that Feaster wouldn't have still screwed up that trade. For the huge lack of return we got on Regehr it would come as no surprise how lacklustre his return would have been with Iginla. There's good reason why Feaster got turfed. He did nothing but take a competitive team and completely tank them.

As much flack as Darryl Sutter gets, remember that Feaster brought back a lot of guys that Darryl either traded or didn't re-sign. I honestly don't recall once being overwhelmed with the players Feaster brought in but with Darryl there was constant buzz if excitement. However, I do remember Feaster talking a lot...

[killer_carlson]

Loud noises

[Tinordi]

Lets talk about something else. So how about that Jankowski pick?

[burn_this_city]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Lets talk about something else. So how about that Jankowski pick?

Is Gaudreau going to sign?