[Trade] Luongo (15% retained salary) traded to Panthers for Jacob Markstrom & Shawn Matthias

[getbak]

Originally Posted by socktape

I thought there was a clause in the CBA stating you couldn't retain a portion of a traded players salary. Did I miss something?

Under the new CBA, teams can retain up to 50% of a player's salary for the remaining life of the deal (same percentage every year).

[Locke]

Originally Posted by fotze

Anyone think the Sedins retire in the next year or two?

Wouldnt surprise me. If Vancouver offloads a few more vets and starts rebuilding then I could see them leave.

The window has slammed shut in their faces this season.

[19Yzerman19]

Doesn't it make more sense for the Canucks to trade the Sedins to a contender so they'd have a shot at a cup if they don't want to play for a rebuilding team? I don't see why they'd just retire outright. If Gillis really wanted to go full-on rebuild he'd send them to Detroit tomorrow.

At this point it seems unlikely they get traded until they're in Iginla territory, though.

[Coach]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Yeah except it's the Canucks; they didn't play hard when they were good.

Why work hard? Cheating is much easier.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

The Oilers tandem has posted much better stats than the Flames tandem so its a case of them being better to begin with, plus having potential.

Just how much potential do a 26 and a 31 year old have? I know you Oiler fans have this potential mantra tattooed on your foreheads, and mention it like a disclaimer with every word uttered about your team, but get real, there is no potential here, except for the two goaltenders to get substantially worse because they are playing on a substantially worse team.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs
Tim Thomas spotted at TD Garden having a chat while prepping for start vs Bruins. He did not look like a happy man at all. Can't blame him

Why wouldn't he be happy? Luongo is coming over to pump up his tires.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

The Oilers tandem has posted much better stats than the Flames tandem so its a case of them being better to begin with, plus having potential.

Come on Oil Stain, that argument is below you.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by New Era

Just how much potential do a 26 and a 31 year old have? I know you Oiler fans have this potential mantra tattooed on your foreheads, and mention it like a disclaimer with every word uttered about your team, but get real, there is no potential here, except for the two goaltenders to get substantially worse because they are playing on a substantially worse team.

I don't know about you guys, but I'd take Fasth + Scrivens over Berra + Ramo now and for the future any day of the week.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by 19Yzerman19

Doesn't it make more sense for the Canucks to trade the Sedins to a contender so they'd have a shot at a cup if they don't want to play for a rebuilding team? I don't see why they'd just retire outright. If Gillis really wanted to go full-on rebuild he'd send them to Detroit tomorrow.

At this point it seems unlikely they get traded until they're in Iginla territory, though.

I doubt that any team is going to want to take both of them on, and I doubt that the Sedin's are going to waive to go to separate teams. The Canucks are going to be stuck watching their painful decline for a long time.

[sureLoss]

James Mirtle @mirtle
Here are the cap penalties from Roberto Luongo's contract for the Canucks if he retires early. Could be really ugly

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Voodooman

So to sum up, you've traded 2 bonafide top 20 starting goalies, for a guy who's projected to be a 3rd line (maybe 2nd line) centre, a potential 20 goal scorer (with a current career high of 14 at age 26) and a goalie who's nowhere close to the level of 25 of the 30 current starters in the league. Oh, and you're paying $1M/year from now to the end of time.

I really though Lowe and MacTavish were the only contenders to take the alltime throne as biggest moron GM from the longtime holder Mike Milbury, but Mike Gillis is really emerging as a contender. He's so laughably bad, he should be a panelist on Sportsnet.

That's what happens when a top 20 goalie has the contract of a top 3 goalie and would've likely cleared waivers.

[Violator]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Joe Haggerty @HackswithHaggs
Tim Thomas spotted at TD Garden having a chat while prepping for start vs Bruins. He did not look like a happy man at all. Can't blame him

If the bigot didn't abandon his team for a year and move to a bunker in Colorado he might be in a better position.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

I don't know about you guys, but I'd take Fasth + Scrivens over Berra + Ramo now and for the future any day of the week.

TBH I don't think any of those 4 goalies are good enough to win you a Stanley Cup in the future.

[19Yzerman19]

My assessment of the tending situation:

Oilers goalies: They are who they are. NHL average at best, maybe Fasth goes on a hot streak now and again. They do have Brossoit, who as a "horizon" guy is mediocre.

Flames goalies: I have no faith in Ramo being anything other than what he is. Same is true of Berra. However, in Ortio they have a guy who could make the jump to "good NHL goalie" in the next couple of years, and in Gillies, they have a "horizon" guy who is better than Brossoit in terms of potential.

Canucks goalies: Lack is good now, has a floor lower than Fasth and Scrivens, but probably not lower than the Flames' tandem. However, he has more upside than all of them. Markstrom could be a total bust or he could be Kari Lehtonen, great upside, high risk. Ericsson has NHL upside as well, but is basically a poor man's lack - similar upside, less likely to reach it.

So, Canucks have best upside, Oilers have lowest risk, Flames are somewhere in the middle.

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I doubt that any team is going to want to take both of them on, and I doubt that the Sedin's are going to waive to go to separate teams. The Canucks are going to be stuck watching their painful decline for a long time.

Don't agree with this at all. There are a number of teams that would take on both of them.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

James Mirtle @mirtle
Here are the cap penalties from Roberto Luongo's contract for the Canucks if he retires early. Could be really ugly

I hope he retires in 2021.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by Violator

If the bigot didn't abandon his team for a year and move to a bunker in Colorado he might be in a better position.

Bigot?

[flamesfan1297]

HA, no way the canucks get traded. There is no way they will go to separate teams. And who would want to take on those train wreck contraxcts

[you got PHANUEFED]

Luongo must be on cloud 9 right about now I wonder if he had any parting shots for Gillis & Torts .

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

James Mirtle @mirtle
Here are the cap penalties from Roberto Luongo's contract for the Canucks if he retires early. Could be really ugly

cap could be 100m+ by then

it might not be a huge factor and the only real big issues are if he retires in the last 2 years

[d_phaneuf]

Originally Posted by you got PHANUEFED

Luongo must be on cloud 9 right about now I wonder if he had any parting shots for Gillis & Torts .

no he wouldn't, he will handle it like he has the whole situation

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