'The Walking Dead- TV show ONLY! Only spoilers allowed are about PAST TV episodes!

[Redliner]

Originally Posted by Daradon

Why do the characters still try to clean out the houses by being quiet? This makes no sense. They're banging on the doors to alert any people before hand, cause they're the good guys and don't want to steal like the bad guys, instead, 'asking' to be let in, but then creep around the rooms to surprise zombies? Gaaaa!

I can see wanting to be quiet if you want to surprise humans, but not the zombies. The heroes have learned how to take out small numbers hand to hand, you'd want to hear them, know where they are, instead of poking your head in a new room and getting pounced by a 'lurker'.

Lastly, as I said, they are already noisy going into the house, so they've already most likely ruined their advantage.

I know it's a false way to build suspense but ehhhh...

And yeah, maybe we're expecting too much, just had to get it off my chest.

I interpreted this differently. I don't think they're banging on the front door to alert any people that might be inside. I think it's because if there are any zombies in the rooms immediately inside the door, they will be drawn to the noise and the people doing the knocking will be able to decide (based on how many zombies there are) whether or not it's worth it to fight their way in or smarter to just move on to the next house. Once inside, it makes more sense to proceed quietly and clear the building room by room because they don't know how many zombies there could be in other parts of the house. Going carefully door by door allows them to use the natural choke points of the building as crowd control in the event they come across a room full of the undead, rather than just crashing their way through, unintentionally drawing out a pack of zombies, and getting swarmed.

Then again, I could be way off base. This is a show where characters make irrational decisions and are wildly inconsistent and I'm probably putting too much thought into this. It seems that very little makes sense in the zombie apocalypse.

[Maritime Q-Scout]

You know TV is funny.

Human beings make contradictory and irrational decisions on a daily basis. Yet when a character on a TV show does the same thing it's not realistic or true to character or is a plot hole.

This isn't directed at Walking Dead specifically but TV/movies in general.

[Daradon]

Originally Posted by Redliner

I interpreted this differently. I don't think they're banging on the front door to alert any people that might be inside. I think it's because if there are any zombies in the rooms immediately inside the door, they will be drawn to the noise and the people doing the knocking will be able to decide (based on how many zombies there are) whether or not it's worth it to fight their way in or smarter to just move on to the next house. Once inside, it makes more sense to proceed quietly and clear the building room by room because they don't know how many zombies there could be in other parts of the house. Going carefully door by door allows them to use the natural choke points of the building as crowd control in the event they come across a room full of the undead, rather than just crashing their way through, unintentionally drawing out a pack of zombies, and getting swarmed.

Then again, I could be way off base. This is a show where characters make irrational decisions and are wildly inconsistent and I'm probably putting too much thought into this. It seems that very little makes sense in the zombie apocalypse.

If there are none in the main areas when they're coming in, how many could possibly be hiding in the individual rooms? Not like you're going to find a dozen in the bathroom or something. Three max in a bedroom, and probably only one or two.

Besides, what you said is a contradiction anyway, if they're banging on the main door, why not just bang on the bedroom door to sound check it that way? Why change strategies?

I know it comes down to building suspense, but it's a lazy writing thing, nothing more.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

You know TV is funny.

Human beings make contradictory and irrational decisions on a daily basis. Yet when a character on a TV show does the same thing it's not realistic or true to character or is a plot hole.

This isn't directed at Walking Dead specifically but TV/movies in general.

The walking dead appears to be a show that follows a group of the most irrational and contradictory human beings the world has ever seen.

Most irrational and contradictory? They are still alive.

[RyZ]

The way I look at the decision making, or lack there of, is that these people are generally malnourished and have any number of mental illnesses from all of the "stuff" they have seen and been a part of themselves. These people arent in the same head space as people on other shows or you or me. They are exhausted both physically and mentally with no reprive in sight, just more death and extreme hardship. Of course they are going to make some decisions that a normal person wouldn't. In fact, I think the stars of the show have held up pretty damn well all things considered.

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Daradon

If there are none in the main areas when they're coming in, how many could possibly be hiding in the individual rooms? Not like you're going to find a dozen in the bathroom or something. Three max in a bedroom, and probably only one or two.

Besides, what you said is a contradiction anyway, if they're banging on the main door, why not just bang on the bedroom door to sound check it that way? Why change strategies?

I know it comes down to building suspense, but it's a lazy writing thing, nothing more.

You're clearly nitpicking, and like others have stated tried to make practical sense in an irrational landscape. Maybe Michonne has learned this is the right way to check for walkers over time? Just because you think it doesn't make sense, doesn't make it entirely true. Like Redliner said maybe they are banging on door to alert survivors, or to just check and see if anyone is home. I doubt they want to barge in and invade a home that is occupied by someone inside. There could also be booby traps, or something along the lines they need to be wary of. There are many reasons why they would check that way first.

As to why they are silent while in the house, I do think it comes down to alerting zombies that they are in the house. Sure at times they have fended them off rather easily, but one bite and from a walker and they're finished. They need to keep the risk of being bit at a minimum, and this is the route they've chosen. Especially with Carl there, who isn't as apt as handling walkers as the others are. Why even take the chance, when they can catch a walker by surprise if they don't hear them in advance? Then like you said it makes for a better (more suspenseful) then to just make a bunch of noise and round up all the walkers in a hall-way and takes them out one by one. Plus what if they alert all the walkers inside a house, but because of some sort of obstruction do not become aware that any are inside? So then while the walker is aware someone is lurking about, Carl and Michonne aren't, and will be doomed if they unwarily encounter any.

So while it may not make complete sense to the practical viewer the writers could explain their reasoning if they wanted to. Flat out calling it "lazy writing" is a stretch just because you would handle things differently.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Flash Walken

The walking dead appears to be a show that follows a group of the most irrational and contradictory human beings the world has ever seen.

Most irrational and contradictory? They are still alive.

Honest question, why are you still watching?

You seem to complain about it after every episode but seem to faithfully sit down and watch it every Sunday evening (at least recently judging by the thread). I know when I watched a show I didn't like and could only complain about (The Newsroom) I gave it a couple episodes to see if I'd enjoy it, complained in the thread about it but saved the people who enjoyed it the grief, then..stopped watching.

Not a big deal in the end but thought it was puzzling. Unless you're a fan and I'm just reading your posts wrong that is.

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by Daradon

If there are none in the main areas when they're coming in, how many could possibly be hiding in the individual rooms? Not like you're going to find a dozen in the bathroom or something. Three max in a bedroom, and probably only one or two.

Besides, what you said is a contradiction anyway, if they're banging on the main door, why not just bang on the bedroom door to sound check it that way? Why change strategies?

I know it comes down to building suspense, but it's a lazy writing thing, nothing more.

Seals,Rangers, & SS breach doors with explosives then go full silent after entering and clear each room......Maybe you should spread your infinite wisdom with the armed forces letting them know they are doing it wrong.
Must be lazy training.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

You're clearly nitpicking, and like others have stated tried to make practical sense in an irrational landscape. Maybe Michonne has learned this is the right way to check for walkers over time? Just because you think it doesn't make sense, doesn't make it entirely true. Like Redliner said maybe they are banging on door to alert survivors, or to just check and see if anyone is home. I doubt they want to barge in and invade a home that is occupied by someone inside. There could also be booby traps, or something along the lines they need to be wary of. There are many reasons why they would check that way first.

As to why they are silent while in the house, I do think it comes down to alerting zombies that they are in the house. Sure at times they have fended them off rather easily, but one bite and from a walker and they're finished. They need to keep the risk of being bit at a minimum, and this is the route they've chosen. Especially with Carl there, who isn't as apt as handling walkers as the others are. Why even take the chance, when they can catch a walker by surprise if they don't hear them in advance? Then like you said it makes for a better (more suspenseful) then to just make a bunch of noise and round up all the walkers in a hall-way and takes them out one by one. Plus what if they alert all the walkers inside a house, but because of some sort of obstruction do not become aware that any are inside? So then while the walker is aware someone is lurking about, Carl and Michonne aren't, and will be doomed if they unwarily encounter any.

So while it may not make complete sense to the practical viewer the writers could explain their reasoning if they wanted to. Flat out calling it "lazy writing" is a stretch just because you would handle things differently.

Also, how do you know it's just zombies in the house? What if there's a group in the house trying to jump you? The show clearly emphasizes the fact that it's more often people, not zombies, who pose the greatest threat. If those guys from the previous episode didn't make all that ruckus after coming into Rick's house, Rick may have never woken up and would be the dead one.

My thought is you make the loud noise at the door to check for zombies. Zombies at the entrance will react to the noise regardless. Once you think the zombie threat is low, you move ahead carefully in case of other survivors or dormant zombies.

[Radio]

Originally Posted by Diemenz

Seals,Rangers, & SS breach doors with explosives then go full silent after entering and clear each room......Maybe you should spread your infinite wisdom with the armed forces letting them know they are doing it wrong.
Must be lazy training.

Must be doing it wrong cause you don't see any of those guys around...they're all dead or zombified.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Honest question, why are you still watching?

You seem to complain about it after every episode but seem to faithfully sit down and watch it every Sunday evening (at least recently judging by the thread). I know when I watched a show I didn't like and could only complain about (The Newsroom) I gave it a couple episodes to see if I'd enjoy it, complained in the thread about it but saved the people who enjoyed it the grief, then..stopped watching.

Not a big deal in the end but thought it was puzzling. Unless you're a fan and I'm just reading your posts wrong that is.

Well almost all my comments are said with some amount of jest to them.

I like the Walking Dead in the same way I like terrible movies. They are fun to laugh at, make guesses at during, etc, without getting too serious or ruining the experience.

It's a social show like survivor, or a b-horror film at a party. You get a few 'omg' moments, you're secretly cheering against everyone and you have a few laughs at the really hokey parts.

I keep watching because I want to see the brutal ways in which the characters die, secretly hoping the entire time it's their own decision making that puts them there. For the lameness of a 2 season Governor story arc, decapitated Herschel head was pretty cool.

Once or twice in a season, the show will do things well for 30 minutes or more, and that's worth watching, but the rest of it is surface entertainment value. Sundays are also a terrible tv lull right now, but with Shameless picking things up and GOT starting soon, Walking Dead might turn into a Monday or Tuesday show.

Edit: Funny you should mention the Newsroom, I feel pretty similar about it as I do the Walking Dead.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Ya at this point I'm just watching for investment reasons. I want to see how everything eventually ends, and I'm cheering for the deaths of certain characters

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

Ya at this point I'm just watching for investment reasons. I want to see how everything eventually ends, and I'm cheering for the deaths of certain characters

Outside of Carl being the obvious one might I ask which ones?

[trackercowe]

Originally Posted by fotze

Glenn for me.

Yeah, good choice. Glenn was my favorite character for the first few episodes, maybe even the first season as a whole. But ever since he met Maggie he's become one of the worst characters on the show. His storyline has become pretty repetitive where all of his actions revolve around her, which always felt like a forced relationship. We're all just waiting for him to be killed saving her, and right now they're just delaying the inevitable.

Quite honestly outside of Daryl there isn't one character I really care enough about that I want them to survive. Maybe the two guys from The Wire, but even then it's not because of anything other then they were in The Wire. That's the shows biggest fault in that the characters aren't all that interesting to the point where all of them are expendable.

[Hemi-Cuda]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Outside of Carl being the obvious one might I ask which ones?

Glenn, Maggie's sister, the two psycho girls. I also don't care for Maggie herself or the girl that's currently following Glen around, but they're both pretty hot so they get a pass

[Flash Walken]

The day darryl runs out of bolts or has his bow break will be a fantastic day for me.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern

That was a much better episode than the first two. Nice to see a few people acting 'normal'. It would really tax a person to walk around so angry all the time. I understand you need to be hard to survive in this world, but you have to hold on to at least a shred of your humanity as well or what is the point.

I know lots of people complain about the show including myself but one of my biggest issues is how the show manufactures drama by making characters take turns acting angry and behaving essentially like a$$holes. It's just not good TV and in turn makes you resent characters like Glenn and Carl. In this setting people would be too busy just trying to stay alive to constantly dwell on negatives as you would need a positive outlook to truly survive in this world.

That said for all the bad acting, terrible writing, etc. I still feel compelled to watch the show every week so it's obviously doing something right. I just feel when the show is over its going to be looked at as a show that never fully realizes its potential but at the same time its a Zombie show like nothing else on TV so it's been worth the watch on that alone.

Oh and I have to point out another stellar scene of master sharpshooting with the group taking out all those zombies with head shots even with automatic weapons.

[Igster]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Outside of Carl being the obvious one might I ask which ones?

Spoiler!

I haven't read the comics but certainly have seen enough online and heard around. There is no way in hell Carl is going to get killed. Hate to break the news.

[strombad]

Can they kill Darryl's stupid haircut?

[Diemenz]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Oh and I have to point out another stellar scene of master sharpshooting with the group taking out all those zombies with head shots even with automatic weapons.

I know right? It's like Hans solo making the Kessel Run in under 12 parsecs when it's widely know that the smugglers run is at least 18 parsecs.

I think some people need to switch to the documentary or history channel if they can't handle watching fictional TV. Costanza working for the Yankees? Ross getting a girl like Rachel? An army base filled with practical jokers who never see battle? James T Kirk never getting a space STD?

Fictional tv is just that, fiction. It's meant to take you away from reality and it does so by creating unreal situations and events. Well I do agree with your points on the useless suspense and character building Arguing about the validity of accuracy on a TV show about zombies is comical.