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Old 02-19-2014, 06:59 PM   #41
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Correlation does not equal causation.

There are many teams with simple, consistent and appreciated brands that consistently failed as well. Toronto being the most obvious example. Detroit, Chicago and the Rangers all had multi-decade periods of futility. Meanwhile, the Ducks have won a Cup and been to the finals in the last decade, and are poised for another long run this year. And three words that would never define their look is "simple", "consistent" and "appreciated".
True, but you also look across sports, and think of the most prominent teams, and majority of them keep a look everyone knows, that has remained the same for the most part over decades. Yankees, Red Sox, Packers, Giants, Celtics, Lakers. Even for teams that aren't as successful on the playing field as of late, still are one of the most prominent in the sports landscape; keeping financially strong. Rangers, Canadiens, Bruins, Cowboys.
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Old 02-19-2014, 07:39 PM   #44
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It's no coincidence that the franchises with the most consitent success are those that keep their brand simple, consistent, and appreciate by majority of the fanbase.
I consider the logo to be the "brand." Colors change. When I think of a confused brand I would look at the Canucks mostly because they have changed their logo so many times, and still do. Their thirds have a different logo.

To me the flaming "C" will always be the brand, and that has always been consistent.

With that said, I like the retro colors and would be ok with that scheme as Calgary's primary colors. And a variation of the 2004 jersey as the third
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All of our jerseys suck. Not just our third. Our '04 set was near perfect.
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Correlation does not equal causation.

There are many teams with simple, consistent and appreciated brands that consistently failed as well. Toronto being the most obvious example. Detroit, Chicago and the Rangers all had multi-decade periods of futility. Meanwhile, the Ducks have won a Cup and been to the finals in the last decade, and are poised for another long run this year. And three words that would never define their look is "simple", "consistent" and "appreciated".
I think he was referring to corporate success, not necessarily on-ice success.
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All of our jerseys suck. Not just our third. Our '04 set was near perfect.
Black should never be part of our jerseys.
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Black should never be part of our jerseys.
It has been part of the jerseys longer than it wasn't.
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"Retro", or the real Calgary Flames colours as I like to call them, should be the defining feature of every aesthetic aspect of the team. Not just the jerseys, but banners, advertisments, whatever else. The whole mish mash of terrible jersey designs, alternate logos, weird fonts, alternate colours -- they only serve to dishonour the team and create a mockery of their brand.

And I know I will get jumped all over for saying this -- but if you look like a joke of a team, you will be a joke of a team. The organization needs to set a standard and the entire look and feel of the uniforms and brand is part of it.
You bring up a great point. Our rafters are going to look weird. We have Lanny's retro jersey, Vernon's weird jersey, Forever a Flames times 2, then Iggy and Kipper will make their way up there.

They need to wear the retro white for away

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It has been part of the jerseys longer than it wasn't.
Which is why our Jerseys have sucked for 90% of the Flames existence.
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You bring up a great point. Our rafters are going to look weird. We have Lanny's retro jersey, Vernon's weird jersey, Forever a Flames times 2, then Iggy and Kipper will make their way up there.
They (quietly) revised Lanny and Vernie's retirement banners a few years back:

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They (quietly) revised Lanny and Vernie's retirement banners a few years back:

And to the surprise of absolutely nobody, two of those banners are godawful.
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They were just using them for practice, and then to the trash right afterward because they are stinky.
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I really like the 2004 jersey. I however like the retro home and away a lot more. The colors are right and brings more heritage and tradition to the Flames. I agree we do not need all these new designs and 3rd jerseys. Just keep it simple. I do not like all the black in our jersey's anymore. It was a nice change at first but the logos should go back to red or white.
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I really like the 2004 jersey. I however like the retro home and away a lot more. The colors are right and brings more heritage and tradition to the Flames. I agree we do not need all these new designs and 3rd jerseys. Just keep it simple. I do not like all the black in our jersey's anymore. It was a nice change at first but the logos should go back to red or white.
This is exactly how I feel. The '04 jerseys are great, but the black C has worn off of me and should be the third logo, not the secondary one. The red and white C's are the ones I associate with more for the Flames brand.
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It has been part of the jerseys longer than it wasn't.
....and it should never be part of our jerseys.
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Old 02-27-2014, 09:13 PM   #57
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I find it interesting that the Enterprise commercial that aired tonight (a brand new one) had the flames reto jersey in it. For a jersey that was supposedly retired it seems to be popping up a lot.
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Guess I can finally get my 23 Nystrom retro jersey changed to Monahan!
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