Local woman allows dog to defecate on grave

[nfotiu]

Originally Posted by OldDutch

Ya, count me in the ok with the picture being posted camp. I find what she did to be pretty disrespectful.

It may not be logical to burry dead people in the ground, but there is a lot of things that is illogical in this world (like religion). However, we don't go around disrespecting others beliefs and traditions because we have something called common decency. This woman showed none. Even cleaning it up, it is the mere act of defecating that is enough. In our culture (I mean west European mainstream NA culture) a human defecating on a grave is considered a massive sign of disrespect.

Look at the drunk kids who peed on war memorials, people were by and large outraged. Why? It's just a hunk of metal, it's not a real soldier. No it's symbolism, and ya it's not logical but it is tradition and norm of our culture to respect such things. No different with a grave site. Even worse it's a dog which is an animal, a sub human. I really do not get the shrugs here.

People in a graveyard are there because they are there, logic or not. They were put there to be respected eternally logically or not. I think all of us know that it is what a graveyard is for. This lady should know that too. To me this is like parking in a handicap spot, she knows she was doing wrong and did it anyways. It may not be illegal, but it is a super d**che move, and I have little sympathy for her pic being posted.

I don't know that it is universally accepted that dogs pooping near graves is disrespectful. It seems established that it was against the rules at the grave site in question. But googling around the internet, it seems some cemeteries allow dogs, and some don't. There is one somewhat near me, the historical Congressional Cemetery, with 65,000 people buried, that doubles as an off leash park:
http://www.cemeterydogs.org/

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

There is only one logical response, ban all dogs.

You're looking at the small picture, ban all poop.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I don't know that it is universally accepted that dogs pooping near graves is disrespectful. It seems established that it was against the rules at the grave site in question. But googling around the internet, it seems some cemeteries allow dogs, and some don't. There is one somewhat near me, the historical Congressional Cemetery, with 65,000 people buried, that doubles as an off leash park:

On I think it was pooping on a grave.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Anduril

You're looking at the small picture, ban all poop.

You're full of poop.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I just don't think it's worth potentially ruining a girl's life over. Having her picture posted all over the internet could have grave (pun intended) consequences on her reputation and relationships.

It was bad judgement and no one was hurt. Hopefully she realizes what she did wrong and doesn't do it again. There are so many things in the world to get upset about and this one is far down the list of worries. It's too bad by-law enforcement wasn't there to give her a fine, but they weren't so oh well.

How will it ruin her if the vast majority of people who see this don't have a clue who she is?

I think she knew exactly what she was doing and felt no remorse when confronted. Chances are she'll back in a few days doing the same thing.

[nik-]

I just don't even understand why someone would want to walk their dog through the graveyard.

[Dion]

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[Codes]

A very cursory search of the internet has mixed reviews on this, but is it legal to post her picture on the internet for the purpose of ridicule?

Edit: it appears that it is not illegal. However, it's a question of morals. I'm not a fan of the public shaming for such a minor, albeit, offensive incident. I think a better course of action would have been to talk to her, or notify the cemetery. At least she cleaned it up.

[dammage79]

Trying to see this from all angles and basing a decision off of that.

One one side, she cleaned up after the dog. Fine that's cool. That's all I have for this side of how to view this.
EDIT: Possibly an area of convenience as there isn't anywhere else to take her dog in the area? But thats BS, let the dog crap on the sidewalk.

On another, Breaking a bylaw (more than one I think), allowing a disrespectful act (to me persoanlly anyways) to occur without much care (obviously as she wouldn't be there in the first place if she did). Maybe ask the Klatzel (name on tombstone directly affected by the pooping) family if they find this disrespectful. Who knows maybe their deceased loved one was a D**che in the first place. Odds are though probably not and would be visibly upset if they seen this photo.

Other side. Photographer could do other things like notify the cemetary of this lady and her pet is he found it so disrespectful and they can then deal with the situation appropriately.

It's not national news or even front page local news but If that chick let her dog crap on my Mothers or Fathers grave and someone showed me a photo of it, I'd be pretty P/O'd.

End result, shes going to get a little public shaming and that's okay. Maybe the family and Cemetary will see this photo and do something about it. If it's that big a deal to them. Who are the most directly involved.

[btimbit]

Extremely disrespectful, absolutely. So let her get fined and move on.

Overreaction for sure.

[jeep991]

Originally Posted by nfotiu

I don't know that it is universally accepted that dogs pooping near graves is disrespectful. It seems established that it was against the rules at the grave site in question. But googling around the internet, it seems some cemeteries allow dogs, and some don't. There is one somewhat near me, the historical Congressional Cemetery, with 65,000 people buried, that doubles as an off leash park:
http://www.cemeterydogs.org/

How can someone letting their pet take a dump on someone else's grave be seen as anything but disrespectful?

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

Originally Posted by jeep991

How can someone letting their pet take a dump on someone else's grave be seen as anything but disrespectful?

Because the dead person doesn't care about being disrespected, being dead and six feet underground and decomposed and all that. It's the ultimate victimless crime.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Because the dead person doesn't care about being disrespected, being dead and six feet underground and decomposed and all that. It's the ultimate victimless crime.

Until the family of the deceased shows, up and spends their time picking up dog ####, instead of their usual act of remembrance.

Whatever that may be.

[Sr. Mints]

What if a deer wandered into the cemetery and unloaded one on a plot?

I imagine this will be Michael Platt's page five piece of garbage later this week.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Red-Mile-DJ

I find it mildly disturbing that a majority of people in this thread see no problems with what the dog has done, and are actually defending this idiot.

The dog took a #### on a grave site. In my opinion, this is right up there with knocking over tombstones and vandalizing a grave site. It's disgusting.

Yes, we don't know for sure if it was cleaned up, if this is the first time or if she comes here all the time with her dog. I'll give her that. But what is immediately evident is a dog taking a #### on a grave.

Holy ####...

and it is also extremely disturbing that people think it is okay to plaster someones photo all over the internet

I haven't seen anyone really defend her, the most people are saying is she doesn't deserve to have her photo posted online.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Because the dead person doesn't care about being disrespected, being dead and six feet underground and decomposed and all that. It's the ultimate victimless crime.

Treatment of our dead is an essential characteristic of being human. This isn't nothing. Desecration of a grave or a corpse is a crime for a reason, because it matters to people.

[GGG]

Originally Posted by nik-

Treatment of our dead is an essential characteristic of being human. This isn't nothing.

Good Treatment of the dead is a luxury of the rich not an essential charactoristic of humanity. If we were starving, struggling to survive we would eat our dead and think nothing of it.

[jeep991]

Originally Posted by Handsome B. Wonderful

Because the dead person doesn't care about being disrespected, being dead and six feet underground and decomposed and all that. It's the ultimate victimless crime.

I'm not talking about the dead person. You might not think it is disrespectful but the people who bury their loved ones there probably do.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by GGG

Good Treatment of the dead is a luxury of the rich not an essential charactoristic of humanity. If we were starving, struggling to survive we would eat our dead and think nothing of it.

Umm, no. Treatment of the dead has been a major component of human culture since the start of human culture.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by nik-

Treatment of our dead is an essential characteristic of being human. This isn't nothing. Desecration of a grave or a corpse is a crime for a reason, because it matters to people.

Having seen this first hand and the effects on the families/community, it is disgusting.