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Old 02-08-2014, 02:52 PM   #1461
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Toews
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Having looked at the forwards on that list the one thing that sticks out to me is the importance of the freshman and sophomore years. Gaudreau's numbers are right there with those guys. Sure this year he's 2 PPG, but when you try to compare that with the top scorers you're inevitably comparing him with juniors or more often seniors. The reason there's no impact players on the top scorers list is because the impact players left college before they had the opportunity to play as a junior or senior


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Old 02-08-2014, 03:09 PM   #1462
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Tried this time to pull out only recognizable names:

Freshman:
T. Vanek 45GP - 31-31-62 - 1.38PPG
Z. Parise 39GP - 26-35-61 - 1.56PPG
D. Heatley 38GP - 28-28-56 - 1.47PPG
P. Kessel 39GP - 18-33-51 - 1.31PPG
J. Pavelski 41GP - 16-29-45 - 1.10PPG
T.J. Oshie 44GP - 24-21-45 - 1.02PPG
Gaudreau 44GP - 21-23-44 - 1.00PPG
Teddy Purcell 40GP - 16-27-43 - 1.07PPG
Kyle Okposo 40GP - 19-21-40 - 1.00PPG
M. Pacioretty 37GP - 15-24-39 - 1.05PPG

Sophomore:
M. Cammalleri 42GP - 29-32-61 1.45PPG
Brian Gionta 39GP - 27-33-60 1.54PPG
D. Heatley 39PG - 24-33-57 1.46PPG
Joe Pavelski 43GP - 23-33-56 1.30PPG
D. Stepan 41GP - 12-42-54 1.32PPG
T.J. Oshie 43GP - 17-35-52 1.21PPG
Gaudreau 35GP - 21-30-51 1.46PPG
Thomas Vanek 38GP - 26-25-51 1.34PPG
A. Cogliano 38GP - 24-26-50 1.32PPG
A. Palushaj 39GP - 13-37-50 1.28PPG
L. Stempniak 34GP - 21-28-49 1.44PPG
Travis Zajac 46GP - 18-29-47 1.02PPG
Jon. Toews 34GP - 18-28-46 1.35PPG
M. Raymond 39GP - 14-32-46 1.18PPG
J. V.Riemsdyk 36GP - 17-23-40 1.11PPG
David Backes 38GP - 17-23-40 1.05PPG

Junior:
J. Tambellini......42GP - 24-33-57 - 1.36PPG
Gaudreau......28GP - 24-32-56 - 2.00PPG
Brian Gionta......42GP - 33-23-56 - 1.33PPG
R.J. Umberger....43GP - 26-27-53 - 1.23PPG
C. Atkinson........39GP - 31-21-52 - 1.33PPG
Brian Boyle....... 42GP - 22-30-52 - 1.24PPG
Ryan Malone.....41GP - 24-25-49 - 1.20PPG
Drew Stafford....42GP - 24-24-48 - 1.14PPG
T.J. Oshie........ 42GP - 18-27-45 - 1.07PPG
M. Cammalleri..29GP - 23-21-44 - 1.52PPG
Drew Miller........44GP - 18-25-43 - 0.98PPG
David Backes.....38GP - 13-29-42 - 1.11PPG
Daniel Winnik....39GP - 15-26-41 - 1.05PPG
J. Abdelkader.....42GP - 19-21-40 - 0.95PPG
L. Stempniak.... 34GP - 16-22-38 - 1.12PPG


A very incomplete list of college guys turned pro with some sort of impact (even if it was short lived).. I'll add to it today if I get bored. But that's some solid context I think.
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Old 02-08-2014, 03:24 PM   #1463
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Cammalleri played 3 years of College. He had 43 points in 28 games in his third year.

Cammalleri and Gaudreau's sophomore PPG were virtually the same, Johnny's were higher in their freshman years, as well as their junior years.
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Anyone have the highlights from the game yet? I'd love to see Arnold's Hatty. The kid is such a well rounded player.

And of course I want to see the beauty setups from Johnny Hockey.
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Cammalleri played 3 years of College. He had 43 points in 28 games in his third year.

Cammalleri and Gaudreau's sophomore PPG were virtually the same, Johnny's were higher in their freshman years, as well as their junior years.
I'm legitimately giddy about hopefully seeing Johnny this year
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Can anyone find an NHLer who had a better junior college season than Johnny is having?
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Kariya had 100 points in 39 games as a freshman in 1992-93.
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Kariya had 100 points in 39 games as a freshman in 1992-93.
True, but from what I can find that looks to be a whole different era in college hockey
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Like was said earlier, no one has broken the 2.00 PPG mark in college hockey since the 90s. Thus, I don't believe we should be treating Gaudreau like the other smaller college kids that managed to become fringe NHLers in the past decade. He's on another level.

I'll be be jumping, yelling and high fiving strangers when this guy gets signed.
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Sooo, he changed his FB cover photo to this.



I'm taking it as a good sign.
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There isn't enough thanks to give for that photo. Will put to sleeps a ton of unfounded fears of him not signing. That contract will be signed before Johnny has a chance to get his skates off when he plays his last game this season. Furthermore, there's going to be a Flames rep standing and waiting at every single game they play during the frozen four with that contract in hand. Kid cannot sign fast enough man, The great white hype has taken over.
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Sooo, he changed his FB cover photo to this.



I'm taking it as a good sign.
Oh my.... let the hype consume you.
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So when can he be signed? Does he have to wait until the end of his college year? I don't know much about NCAA rules.
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So when can he be signed? Does he have to wait until the end of his college year? I don't know much about NCAA rules.
technically they could sign him any day, but as soon as he signs, he can't play in the NCAA anymore. So it won't happen until his season is wrapped up. Expect him to get signed immediately when his season ends ... they signed Hanowski within a few hours last year I believe.
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So when can he be signed? Does he have to wait until the end of his college year? I don't know much about NCAA rules.
Not this again! Lol

The minute he signs any contract to play hockey he is ineligible to continue to play in the NCAA, so if he wants to finish his season there, he cannot sign until it's over
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Not this again! Lol

The minute he signs any contract to play hockey he is ineligible to continue to play in the NCAA, so if he wants to finish his season there, he cannot sign until it's over
Dude, I was just asking a question and no, I am not one of those "what if he doesn't sign and we lose him for nothing" guys. Looking forward to seeing him in Flames silks sooner rather than later!
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Dude, I was just asking a question and no, I am not one of those "what if he doesn't sign and we lose him for nothing" guys. Looking forward to seeing him in Flames silks sooner rather than later!
Sorry, want trying to come across as a jerk, just was joking that the question has been asked quite a few times in this thread (not that is expect someone to read a whole long thread before posting a question). Honestly was just kidding and answering your question
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So when can he be signed? Does he have to wait until the end of his college year? I don't know much about NCAA rules.
BC has a really good shot at winning it all this year, they are dominating. So if he does end up going all the way to the NCAA final (April 11th) he could still sign with the Flames April 12th and play in Van that night to finish off the season.

Then he has of course all the time in Abby and their Calder Cup run coming up.
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The thought of adding Gaudreau and Arnold to an already strong Heat team makes me giddy with excitement.
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And I can't recall... Monahan could join the Heat once his junior team is done too, right? Ottawa is currently 9th in the eastern conference - if they miss the playoffs, they are done on March 16th.
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