[News] Shane O'Brien assigned to Heat. Breen recalled.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by indes

It'll be good for the guys to have a solid pro down on the farm, I hope Sven sees the professionalism SOB is displaying on being sent down.

What has Sven said differently than SOB?

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

I believe Chiarelli clarified it in that press conference the day (or so?) after Iginla was dealt to Pittsburgh. He said there was no conditions, and I believe someone questioned him on it again right away, and he made it very clear that there were absolutely no conditions.

I personally haven't heard anything from Feaster implying there were conditions. Might have missed it during the whole circus at the time, but I didn't catch it.

Actually the exact words he used was that it was a "guaranteed 1st", and was very deliberate about using that exact phrasing in his second response as well. This led to speculation that it would have been a 1st that year or this year, depending on how deep a playoff run they went on. Similar to the Kaberle deal.

[nik-]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Actually the exact words he used was that it was a "guaranteed 1st", and was very deliberate about using that exact phrasing in his second response as well. This led to speculation that it would have been a 1st that year or this year, depending on how deep a playoff run they went on. Similar to the Kaberle deal.

actually he said it was not conditional.

on second thought I don't remember clearly enough, but not conditional is what sticks out to me

[Goodlad]

nm, cuts off right before questions from the media

[Roof-Daddy]

So, if all our D are healthy:

1. Giordano
2. Brodie
3. Russell
4. Wideman
5. Smid
6. Butler

...who sits so we can "see what Breen has"?

I know the easy answer is Butler for most folks, but he hasn't played bad enough to deserve a scratch....in fact, he's played really well lately IMO.

Seems dumb to call up Breen because he's finally in game shape, only to plant him in the press box and let him lose that edge he apparently gained by playing a lot in Abbotsford.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So, if all our D are healthy:

1. Giordano
2. Brodie
3. Russell
4. Wideman
5. Smid
6. Butler

...who sits so we can "see what Breen has"?

I know the easy answer is Butler for most folks, but he hasn't played bad enough to deserve a scratch....in fact, he's played really well lately IMO.

Seems dumb to call up Breen because he's finally in game shape, only to plant him in the press box and let him lose that edge he apparently gained by playing a lot in Abbotsford.

maybe rotate guys?

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So, if all our D are healthy:

1. Giordano
2. Brodie
3. Russell
4. Wideman
5. Smid
6. Butler

...who sits so we can "see what Breen has"?

I know the easy answer is Butler for most folks, but he hasn't played bad enough to deserve a scratch....in fact, he's played really well lately IMO.

Seems dumb to call up Breen because he's finally in game shape, only to plant him in the press box and let him lose that edge he apparently gained by playing a lot in Abbotsford.

Sit Butler or Smid. Breen can't replace what the others bring

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

So, if all our D are healthy:

1. Giordano
2. Brodie
3. Russell
4. Wideman
5. Smid
6. Butler

...who sits so we can "see what Breen has"?

I know the easy answer is Butler for most folks, but he hasn't played bad enough to deserve a scratch....in fact, he's played really well lately IMO.

Seems dumb to call up Breen because he's finally in game shape, only to plant him in the press box and let him lose that edge he apparently gained by playing a lot in Abbotsford.

Based off what I've seen lately, Wideman, no doubt in my mind. He's seriously struggling just to keep up with the play.

[indes]

Originally Posted by Street Pharmacist

What has Sven said differently than SOB?

I didn't mean it in that way, just the suggestions of ward on his confidence and recent slump make it seem like Sven could benefit from having an experienced nhler in a similar situation.

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by indes

I didn't mean it in that way, just the suggestions of ward on his confidence and recent slump make it seem like Sven could benefit from having an experienced nhler in a similar situation.

I figured that's what you meant, but what I was getting at its that what they say, doesn't necessarily mean anything. He could be bad mouthing the organization to his teammates for all we know, or pouting.

[CalgaryFan1988]

Originally Posted by nik-

actually he said it was not conditional.

on second thought I don't remember clearly enough, but not conditional is what sticks out to me

I believe Chiarelli's exact words were "it was a hard first".

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Pierre "Monster" McGuire

Basically said he's excited to go from a 28th overall team to a 6th overall team. Loves the kids' energy.

The big thing for him is just playing and getting his enthusiasm for the game back.

Sounds like he's being pretty honest about not playing well and having some motivational issues playing for a losing team.

Which is fine, keeping your head in a season like this with the Flames has to be tough and for a vets who don't have a lot of seasons left it has to be even harder.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Sounds like O'Brien is being a champ about this. Good too see, and hopefully it does help the team down there as well as the kids personally.

For all of Kotalik's warts, he was great on the Heat. Went down there with a positive attitude, became a bit of a leader, and received loads of praise from teammates and Ward. Hopefully O'Brien does the same.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Sounds like O'Brien is being a champ about this. Good too see, and hopefully it does help the team down there as well as the kids personally.

For all of Kotalik's warts, he was great on the Heat. Went down there with a positive attitude, became a bit of a leader, and received loads of praise from teammates and Ward. Hopefully O'Brien does the same.

These guys are getting paid lots of money and want to land contract's after this one. No matter if they are bitter or angry about being demoted, it would be a ridiculous move to go off in the media about it. His play will tell if he's actually engaged with the team... not quotes.

[taffeyb]

Originally Posted by blankall

Except that wasn't the trade Feaster negotiated. He negotiated a deal with Boston that would have brought back a 1st, Bartowski, and Khoklachev. Bartowski makes that deal solid.

Feaster's hands were, however, tied, and Iginla forced him to take a lesser deal.

And does anyone remember how JBo was referred to one of the most overpaid players in the league prior to being traded? JBo's numbers are also coming back down to Earth. He plays on arguably the best d-core in the league right now too, which further skews his numbers.

Feaster was too soft on this. When Iginla provided a list of teams, Feaster should get the best deal. To have a deal with Boston and then to defer to Iggy's preference was a mistake. It was a list, therefore, a trade to any one of those teams on the list was the only input Iggy should have had. If I recall the news conference, Feaster said something along the lines of "Iggy earned the right to choose his team..." Feaster was right...but that's way he had a list.

[taffeyb]

Originally Posted by blankall

Except that wasn't the trade Feaster negotiated. He negotiated a deal with Boston that would have brought back a 1st, Bartowski, and Khoklachev. Bartowski makes that deal solid.

Feaster's hands were, however, tied, and Iginla forced him to take a lesser deal.

And does anyone remember how JBo was referred to one of the most overpaid players in the league prior to being traded? JBo's numbers are also coming back down to Earth. He plays on arguably the best d-core in the league right now too, which further skews his numbers.

Feaster was too soft on this. When Iginla provided a list of teams, Feaster should get the best deal. To have a deal with Boston and then to defer to Iggy's preference was a mistake. It was a list, therefore, a trade to any one of those teams on the list was the only input Iggy should have had. If I recall the news conference, Feaster said something along the lines of "Iggy earned the right to choose his team..." Feaster was right...but that's way he had a list.

[flambers]

Personally I am confused why the Flames have recalled Breen, Burke states they want to see if he can play at this level. In 4 or 5 games or so, he has dressed for one and played 4 minutes.

Time to send him down again.

[cDnStealth]

Originally Posted by taffeyb

Feaster was too soft on this. When Iginla provided a list of teams, Feaster should get the best deal. To have a deal with Boston and then to defer to Iggy's preference was a mistake. It was a list, therefore, a trade to any one of those teams on the list was the only input Iggy should have had. If I recall the news conference, Feaster said something along the lines of "Iggy earned the right to choose his team..." Feaster was right...but that's way he had a list.

What if Iginla just provided a list that said Penguins on it?

[The Swedish Flame]

Wouldn't be a CP thread unless we mentioned Iginla.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by flambers

Personally I am confused why the Flames have recalled Breen, Burke states they want to see if he can play at this level. In 4 or 5 games or so, he has dressed for one and played 4 minutes.

Time to send him down again.

Hartley makes those decisions and now that everyone is healthy which regular is going to sit so Breen can come in and play <10 minutes?