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			The thing I hated most in past superman movies with Lex Luthor, was that he was always so much older then superman.  The original storyline had them as childhood friends who become enemies, which to me, makes for a much more interesting, complex storyline.  Hopefully the writers are able to capture it correctly.  Eisenberg wouldn't have been my first choice, but maybe he can bring something new to the character.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				The thing I hated most in past superman movies with Lex Luthor, was that he was always so much older then superman.  The original storyline had them as childhood friends who become enemies, which to me, makes for a much more interesting, complex storyline.  Hopefully the writers are able to capture it correctly.  Eisenberg wouldn't have been my first choice, but maybe he can bring something new to the character. 
			
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I always thought that was the Smallville storyline.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I always thought that was the Smallville storyline. 
			
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It was part of the Smallville storyline, but the childhood friendship storyline dates back to the comics of the 60's.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Eisenberg is a good actor. He will be fine in the role. Fanboys overreact to everything. They hated Ledger as the Joker when that was announced too.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				The thing I hated most in past superman movies with Lex Luthor, was that he was always so much older then superman.  The original storyline had them as childhood friends who become enemies, which to me, makes for a much more interesting, complex storyline.  Hopefully the writers are able to capture it correctly.  Eisenberg wouldn't have been my first choice, but maybe he can bring something new to the character. 
			
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That's not necessarily true. When Lex was first introduced, he was very much the older mad scientist with no connection to Superman. When the Silver Age came along, Lex was reintroduced as knowing Superboy as he grew up in Smallville. He blamed Superboy for a fire which caused him to go bald, and that's how their rivalry grew.
 
When the DC universe was rebooted following Crisis on Infinite Earths in the late 80's, Calgary born writer John Byrne created a new origin for the Man of Steel, coincidently in a title named the same. In this, Luthor had no connections to Smallville, but was an older, successful businessman and scientist. 
 
In 2003, Mark Waid wrote "Birthright", which helped reboot Superman's origins as there had been continuity altering events in the DCU. In this storyline, this is where Luthor famously became engraved in the Superman lore, as he and Clark Kent were childhood friends. He had no knowledge of Clark's Kryptonian powers, and Superboy never existed. As Clark grew older, only he knew the connection between Luthor and Smallville. 
 
Lex's connection to Superman's past has changed significantly throughout the years.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Don't believe anything Latino Review says, they love to make stuff up. They were the ones who were reporting Bale would be back as Batman for Man of Steel 2.  That is just one of many rumours. Think the Ecklunds of the comic book movie genre. 
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			As someone who doesn't really care for Superman all that much, and who enjoyed Man of Steel, I'm totally open to them going a different direction with characters. 
  
This is what these things are about. I don't view comic book movies as having to be film versions of the comics. They are different interpretations by different artists no different than when they have a new artist/writer take on a character in the comics. Without these different interpretations we wouldn't see growth of characters like Catwoman, Joker, etc... who have seen vast departures from their original concepts in many different mediums. I'm totally open to whatever a new director/writer wants to do with characters. It's their work, if it sucks it sucks, but nothing is pre-determined, at least for me.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				As someone who doesn't really care for Superman all that much, and who enjoyed Man of Steel, I'm totally open to them going a different direction with characters. 
  
This is what these things are about. I don't view comic book movies as having to be film versions of the comics. They are different interpretations by different artists no different than when they have a new artist/writer take on a character in the comics. Without these different interpretations we wouldn't see growth of characters like Catwoman, Joker, etc... who have seen vast departures from their original concepts in many different mediums. I'm totally open to whatever a new director/writer wants to do with characters. It's their work, if it sucks it sucks, but nothing is pre-determined, at least for me. 
			
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Thing is you need to leave it to the comic book writers to do the re-imaginings, otherwise you just get a mess (Halle Berry Catwoman, Spiderman 3, Wolverine Origins, etc)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Thing is you need to leave it to the comic book writers to do the re-imaginings, otherwise you just get a mess (Halle Berry Catwoman, Spiderman 3, Wolverine Origins, etc) 
			
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Why? What's the difference? It's not like all comic book re-imaginings have been home-runs either.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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I'll admit that I winced at the title (because I associate the word "skinhead" with neo-nazism) but the write-up doesn't sound awful. I'm not a fan of the Eisenberg casting but having seen Eisenberg with a bald head in a suit I can see him in the part (visually) but I don't know if he can pull off the role... Lex Luthor is a far cry from the passive-aggressive Mark Zuckerberg he played in the Social Network.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Eisenberg is a good actor. He will be fine in the role. Fanboys overreact to everything. They hated Ledger as the Joker when that was announced too. 
			
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Dude, she's just not that into you, let it go. You have to start evaluating real life based on the rules and not the exceptions.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Well think I am hopping off this bandwagon now that it's been confirmed that they chose Eisenberg over Bryan Cranston to play Luthor. I'll hold out hope that Eisenberg can be the next Heath Ledger, but Eisenberg does not have Ledger's acting talents, and he's going to be taking direction from a far inferior director in Zack Snyder instead of Christopher Nolan. 
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John Stewart fits the bill here.. besides Hal "The Attention Whore" Jordan, he is the most complex of the GL's.. but honestly after reading that I am putting my money on Martian Manhunter.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			It will be interesting for sure to see what character he plays, and in what medium. 
 
An angle I read about in a small opinion piece is the potential #### storm if he is cast as a character that is typically black. ie: John Stewart. Just because he is darker skinned.  
 
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				Well think I am hopping off this bandwagon now that it's been confirmed that they chose Eisenberg over Bryan Cranston to play Luthor. I'll hold out hope that Eisenberg can be the next Heath Ledger, but Eisenberg does not have Ledger's acting talents, and he's going to be taking direction from a far inferior director in Zack Snyder instead of Christopher Nolan. 
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I dunno, I kinda went "huh" when they cast Eisenberg. But I agree with Chris Nolan's casting philosophy with these types films. You don't pick an actor you want, then write a story with a character that fits that actor. That is backwards. You write what you think is a great story, then decide what established characters fit that story and then cast for those characters. 
 
Obviously Cranston would have done fine as Luthor. But maybe for the Luthor they have created in this universe he doesn't fit at all.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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				Well think I am hopping off this bandwagon now that it's been confirmed that they chose Eisenberg over Bryan Cranston to play Luthor. I'll hold out hope that Eisenberg can be the next Heath Ledger, but Eisenberg does not have Ledger's acting talents, and he's going to be taking direction from a far inferior director in Zack Snyder instead of Christopher Nolan. 
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I do remember Eisenburg pulling off the evil billionaire genius once already...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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