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Old 01-29-2014, 09:41 PM   #1161
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Their broadcast region is huge though: Northern and Eastern Ontario, Quebec, Atlantic Canada and Newfoundland.

It is a huge region but I doubt much of Atlantic Canada or Quebec cares to watch the Sens. And the section of Ontario they get is very sparsely populated.

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Old 01-30-2014, 06:14 AM   #1162
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SportsNet East was always irrelevant.

When I do end up watching SportsNet it's whatever channel the guide landed on, I make no special effort to go to SN East. I don't understand why they don't stop the regional divide and have multiple channels showing different programming.

Oh wow the Jays are on 4 Sports Net channels. What, SportsNet Connected is on four channels for 5 hours, plus a variation of Connected on 360?

As for how much people out here want to watch the Senators. There is a large amount of Sens fans. Not as many as the Leafs and Habs, but they are clearly the #3 fan base and aren't small. It seems people who didn't grow up in Habs or Leafs families are Senators fans.
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SportsNet East was always irrelevant.
SN West for the most part has also been irrelevant. We tune in when the game is on but that's the only time we tune in.
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Old 01-30-2014, 09:37 AM   #1164
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Without the Senators games, this makes Sportsnet East kind of redundant.
Good for out of market baseball games, but that's about it.

And large market area or not, I have a hard time imagining TSN turns a profit on that contract. At least in the first few years before inflation makes the back end of the deal relatively cheaper.
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SN West for the most part has also been irrelevant. We tune in when the game is on but that's the only time we tune in.
Actually, other than Flames games or to watch the occasional Oilers losing game, I don't watch SN at all. I don't like anything else they have to offer and the hockey productions...well, let's not even bother getting into that.
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IMO that was a terrible decision by the Flames and Oilers to sign a 10 year agreement. They must have known that NHL TV rights were on the upswing and I'm not sure why you would lock in to a term past the recent expiry of national rights. Looks like they both screwed themselves out of a bidding war between Rogers and Bell seeing how Bell would have been willing to ante up $$$ to get their foot in the door out West after losing national rights.
The only reason NHL rights "were on the upswing" was because months after they signed their deals with Sportsnet, Rogers decided to put down the hammer and grab it all. How could they have known that? Also, I am still waiting for the link from Sidney Crosby's Hat to where it says their deal is worth 17 million a year.
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The only reason NHL rights "were on the upswing" was because months after they signed their deals with Sportsnet, Rogers decided to put down the hammer and grab it all. How could they have known that? Also, I am still waiting for the link from Sidney Crosby's Hat to where it says their deal is worth 17 million a year.
Sports right have gone through the roof in recent years as they are 'PVR proof'. Some recent local baseball deals have been crazy (obviously these are much bigger markets than Calgary) - but LA Dodgers get 340M/year, Seattle $115M/year, Houston $80M/year.
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So what's going down with the Hockey Night in Canada song? Is TSN keeping it?

I think Sportsnet should be original and make a new iconic theme song for their national broadcasts. NHL on NBC theme is pretty good, but I actually think NHL on ESPN theme is one of the best sports theme of all time.

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TSN still owns the Hockey Song. They use it on all of their regional broadcasts.
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TSN still owns the Hockey Song. They use it on all of their regional broadcasts.
The song is also used for all the Montreal Canadiens RDS games.
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So what's going down with the Hockey Night in Canada song? Is TSN keeping it?

I think Sportsnet should be original and make a new iconic theme song for their national broadcasts. NHL on NBC theme is pretty good, but I actually think NHL on ESPN theme is one of the best sports theme of all time.


Yup. They need to not only being that theme back, but Thorne, Clement and the Nordiques too!

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I dunno if anyone will know this yet, but all the pressers said that there will be no more regional blackouts on sportsnet.

Does this mean that if I subscribe to sportsnet west I will get all the flames games without center ice? Should save me a couple hundred bucks.

I'm not clear because most articles say that sportsnet has an exclusive rights to show nhl on three days enabling this, so I'm not sure if the blackouts will be lifted on those three days a week only or all year?

Great for the nhl imo, big sports like the epl and nfl allow fans to watch who they choose without spending big money, which i think can only grow the game.

There are lots of default canucks fans in kelowna, a place that has zero in common with vancouver. Think it'll still be the case but at least there are other viable options to follow without spending 200 bucks on hockey.

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I dunno if anyone will know this yet, but all the pressers said that there will be no more regional blackouts on sportsnet.

Does this mean that if I subscribe to sportsnet west I will get all the flames games without center ice? Should save me a couple hundred bucks.

I'm not clear because most articles say that sportsnet has an exclusive rights to show nhl on three days enabling this, so I'm not sure if the blackouts will be lifted on those three days a week only or all year?

Great for the nhl imo, big sports like the epl and nfl allow fans to watch who they choose without spending big money, which i think can only grow the game.

There are lots of default canucks fans in kelowna, a place that has zero in common with vancouver. Think it'll still be the case but at least there are other viable options to follow without spending 200 bucks on hockey.
What I took from the announcements was that if they had a Flames game on Snet West, a Leafs game on Snet East, a Pitt/Washington game game on Sportsnet 360 and a Detroit/Rangers game on CityTV, viewers would be able to tune into any of the games without blackout *on any day. I'm still skeptical it will work exactly like this but if it does I will be pumped.

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I believe that there will be different games on the various SportsNet/Rogers channels on days with national coverage (Wednesdays, Saturdays, and Sundays). However if the Flames are on SportsNet West on a Tuesday then that game will be subject to blackouts.

Take this quote from Curtis Rush of The Star (http://www.thestar.com/sports/hockey..._canada.html):

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The NHL said the agreement guarantees that there will be no further regionalization of games or local blackouts. Rogers has three exclusive windows to broadcast any game involving a Canadian team: Wednesday nights, Saturday nights and Sunday nights.
No further rationalization means that they aren't going to expand upon regional coverage but focus on national coverage.

Rogers will have three exclusive windows for broadcasting Canadian teams, Wednesday, Saturday and Sunday. Those games are national games and not subject to any blackout restrictions.

So there will still be some blackouts, but only on Mondays, Tuesdays, Thursdays and Fridays.
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Thanks for responding guys, guess it has not been fully spelled out and you're in the same boat as me interpreting the presser language.

Hoping you are right trojan but i wouldn't be surprised by maritime's suggested partial blackout, or even worse.
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Well if they eliminated regional blackouts why would TSN be bidding for the Senators regional broadcasts?

Since there is still regional broadcasts and bidding on regional contracts, then the regional blackouts would remain.

Rogers has the regional rights for Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver as well as the national rights. TSN has Montréal, Ottawa, and Winnipeg (I don't recall who has Toronto's).

Regional games will be regional. National will be national.

Don't think of the games as Rogers' or TSN's. Think regional vs national the broadcaster is irrelevant.
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yes i believe there are no blackouts only on wednesday, saturday and sunday.
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I thought I read that the regional games broadcast by SN will be available to all viewers by paying a surcharge. If this happens, it should be cheaper than Centre Ice and will give me all the hockey I need.
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More information of the deal released today:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/n...r-rogers-deal/

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More than 500 regular-season games will be broadcast across 13 networks next season, with as many as seven games shown every Saturday night.
“We are working together with the NHL on a strategic game schedule, which allows us to deliver the games that matter most to Canadians,” said Scott Moore, president of Sportsnet and NHL, Rogers Media. “Our vision is to transform the fan experience. There will be two conventional networks to deliver increased game coverage on Saturday nights, we have created a new national night for hockey on Sundays, we will be in hockey communities every week, and we are leveraging all the Rogers networks and platforms to deliver expanded NHL content.”
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Saturdays will remain Hockey Night in Canada, with games broadcast on CBC, City, Sportsnet, Sportsnet ONE, Sportsnet 360, FX Canada, TVA, TVA Sports, and TVA Sports 2. Three to five games will be shown in the 7 p.m. ET slot; an additional one or two contests will begin at 10 p.m. ET.

Hometown Hockey, a brand-new national hockey night, will air Sundays at 7 p.m. ET on City. Each game will feature a Canadian club and be hosted in a different community rink across Canada. Additional matchups will also air Sundays on Sportsnet and Sportsnet ONE.

Wednesday’s NHL on Sportsnet will bring more nationally televised games with an emphasis placed on superstar matchups and storytelling. A contest between two U.S. teams will complement the evening on Sportsnet ONE.

On top of the national offering, Sportsnet will air all 82 regular-season games from the Vancouver Canucks, Calgary Flames and Edmonton Oilers. A minimum of 53 Toronto Maple Leafs games will be aired by Rogers, 40 of them nationally and a minimum of 13 regionally. And a minimum of 100 U.S. team-versus-U.S. team contests will be broadcast nationally on Sportsnet ONE and Sportsnet 360; the latter station will be the home of a regular Thursday-night broadcast.
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And:

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/repor...ticle16695957/

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Even if you are not a cable customer, Rogers Communications Inc. could soon be coming to your living room. In person.
As it seeks to make good on its 12-year, $5.2-billion agreement to become the country’s hockey broadcaster, the company is embarking on a tour of 10 cities across the country. Representatives from both Rogers and the National Hockey League will be going to local minor hockey associations, sports pubs, and even into the homes of people who are interested in becoming “fan advisers.”
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The “listening tour” will include all seven cities with NHL teams, plus three other markets where hockey has a strong foothold. Red Deer, Alta., Sudbury, Ont., and Kingston, Ont. are on the list of possible stops.
The researchers will focus on gathering feedback from three priority groups: new Canadians, existing core fans, and young people, whose changing media consumption habits are posing a challenge to the entire industry.
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It has long been known, for example, that younger people are consuming more TV online, and that even when they do watch broadcasts they are increasingly active on “second screens” such as tablets and smartphones at the same time. Rogers wants to know how to prioritize its social media activity adjacent to broadcasts, what young viewers are looking for through digital channels, and what to prioritize.
“I have got to believe there’s a gem of an idea out there with a young hockey fan that we won’t think of unless they have a chance to put up their hand and talk about it,” Mr. Hooper said. “We grew up with hockey cards and Hockey Night in Canada, and they’ve grown up with apps and smartphones.”
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