01-29-2014, 09:28 AM
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#1301
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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To me, of the 4 options above, the one that makes the most sense to me is the west village. The area around there is definitely in need of revitalization and could be an option for other venues to be built around the rink. Additionally, the thru traffic there is the best other than at the big 4 site.
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01-29-2014, 09:32 AM
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#1302
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Muta
Keep in mind there are other potential locations too. I'm not sure exactly which one has been selected, but as far as I know, these are the four sites being considered. There could be a fifth option as well that I am unaware of.
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It has definitely been kept under wraps so far but I do think the flames will want the parking revenue or at least a good part of it this time around.
As they say, build it and they will come, look where McMahon is.
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01-29-2014, 09:32 AM
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#1303
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
Pros:
May require reconstruction of Bow Trail & Bow/Crow interchange
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FYP. I'm pretty sure getting this nonsense fixed should go in the "pro" column.
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01-29-2014, 09:35 AM
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#1304
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by bizaro86
FYP. I'm pretty sure getting this nonsense fixed should go in the "pro" column.
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It's a pro in that the work gets done. It's a con in that it's an added (costly) expense.
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01-29-2014, 09:36 AM
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#1305
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bizaro86
FYP. I'm pretty sure getting this nonsense fixed should go in the "pro" column.
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I know that if the West Village is the preferred location, there is a re-alignment plan for Bow Trail which would make A LOT more sense.
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01-29-2014, 09:38 AM
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#1306
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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Relative to where each CP poster lives will definitely influence where the new arena should go. At least I think it would be interesting to see the correlation between where someone lives to where they think the new arena should be built.
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01-29-2014, 09:38 AM
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#1307
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Powerplay Quarterback
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north stampede would be my first choice.
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01-29-2014, 09:47 AM
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#1308
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Voted for Kodos
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Muta
I know that if the West Village is the preferred location, there is a re-alignment plan for Bow Trail which would make A LOT more sense.
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It would make sense to move both directions of Bow Trail immediately beside the CPR tracks. The tracks are already a barrier to movement, and moving the road right beside them would consolidate the barriers.
Whatever would be built then would have direct access to the riverfront, would could end up being a very nice feature.
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01-29-2014, 09:51 AM
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#1309
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First Line Centre
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Anywhere relatively central would be great.
Biggest plus for me would be direct access to an LRT... none of crap we have right now where we have to walk 10 minutes just to get to the train station.
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01-29-2014, 09:52 AM
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#1310
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Quote:
Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed
It would make sense to move both directions of Bow Trail immediately beside the CPR tracks. The tracks are already a barrier to movement, and moving the road right beside them would consolidate the barriers.
Whatever would be built then would have direct access to the riverfront, would could end up being a very nice feature.
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I believe that would be the plan. The westbound lanes would be aligned with the eastbound lanes tight against the tracks.
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01-29-2014, 09:54 AM
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#1311
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Powerplay Quarterback
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"Con: May require reconstruction of Bow Trail & Bow/Crow interchange & Bow/14th interchange"
i think anyone who has to drive in that mess on a daily basis would say this would be a pro ;-)
My vote is for West Village, especially if its an arena, stadium combo. That would be amazing.
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01-29-2014, 10:09 AM
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#1312
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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I think we should have a poll based on You Need a Thneed's pro/con list.
North Stampede would be my vote.
- In the long term it will have the most density around it.
- Ability to have the LRT right into it.
- Walkable from City Hall station of the 7th ave line.
- Parkade across the tracks on 9th.
- Pre and post game beers at the Eddy, plus good Blues music for the down seasons.
- Close to the busy end of Stephen Ave, Inglewood, Stampede Trail, and not that far from the east end of 17th (which will redevelop way before 14th street)
- Next to stampede so it can be used for the big Stampede concerts (if they tear down the Saddledome)
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01-29-2014, 10:17 AM
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#1313
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: SW Ontario
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Whenever I hear of an arena/stadium combo I get nightmares about the Ottawa Civic Centre (Where the 67s play/Senators played when they came into the NHL). The one side is a normal sized arena and the side under the football seating is like 10 rows total. Its under construction now for the renovations for the CFL team so perhaps it will change.. but it is a disaster.
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01-29-2014, 10:23 AM
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#1314
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Voted for Kodos
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Originally Posted by PeteMoss
Whenever I hear of an arena/stadium combo I get nightmares about the Ottawa Civic Centre (Where the 67s play/Senators played when they came into the NHL). The one side is a normal sized arena and the side under the football seating is like 10 rows total. Its under construction now for the renovations for the CFL team so perhaps it will change.. but it is a disaster.

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It need not be so tight together.
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01-29-2014, 10:25 AM
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#1315
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Violating Copyrights
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A little timeline on this so called project. Seems as though plans have been reset a number of times probably due to an assumption that cash would come from somewhere and clearly isn't, the purchase of the Stamps, and Stampede plans. I honestly don't think that they are any further ahead than they were in 2009.
Two sites, one site, three sites, downtown site, Stampede grounds, Stampede area, considering other locations...
Talked to the City, haven't talked to the City.
Arena concepts created, RFPs coming out, not ready to present their case.
Going on 9 years of this.
April 2006 -
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Flames President & CEO Ken King said that the team “has been in discussion with several stakeholders for a year, including” the city of Calgary, the Stampede and the province of Alberta.
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http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/D...%20Flames&sc=0
Sept 2009 -
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"We have had several architectural looks created for our new building, we have been in contact with several major architectural and construction firms in Calgary," says Ken King, the president of the hockey club.
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King also says they are considering a second location but he won't divulge many details. "We think this should be an urban building, we think it should be downtown, most of our fans feel the same way."
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http://calgary.ctvnews.ca/new-flames...ality-1.430833
“Requests for proposals will be going out in the next three or four months.[/QUOTE]
http://blogs.calgaryherald.com/2011/...dmonton-arena/
Sept 2010 -
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King explained the Flames aren’t quite ready to present their case for a new arena, but hope to access public support — be it infrastructure, direct funding or some other form — when the time comes.
The club has a guideline of playing in a new rink within three to five years, with construction starting within the next two to three years.
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http://globalnews.ca/news/97162/hope...sports-venues/
Aug 2012 -
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“I’m not going to affirm or deny any speculation on possible sites,” he said. “Let me say that what we’re thinking about could be one of the defining projects in our city for many decades to come, but if discussed prematurely would just be totally unhelpful to all the stakeholders involved.”
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http://www.calgaryherald.com/sports/...420/story.html
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01-29-2014, 11:06 AM
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#1316
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Powerplay Quarterback
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^ Wow, talk about getting the runaround. Just friggin tell us already!
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01-29-2014, 11:16 AM
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#1317
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Calgary
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Honestly given the flood/renovations at the dome I fully expect another 5 years of beating around the bush & run around on the announcement. The Flames are content to sit on their hands and let the Oiler's play out their side show first.
After having two big shows compromised by our crappy roof (NIN/Metallica) I can't wait for the new arena to be built. The dome served well over the years, but it's simply becoming too dated for it's own good.
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01-29-2014, 11:21 AM
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#1318
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First Line Centre
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I hope the delay for the project isnt so that the Flames can also budget in a Football stadium for the Stamps. In reality, for the amount of games the Stamps play, there is no need for a new stadium, especially at taxpayers cost(if that is the plan). The Flames bring much more revenue to the city and an NHL arena will still be able to accomadate other entertainment options.
Unless the football stadium will have more than one entertainment option(Stamps) there is no reason for it, eventhough McMahon is a dump. I have no qualms with some tax dollars going to the new arena as the building will benefit not just the Flames games, buy many other things. A definitive football only stadium for the CFL(stamps) is waste. If the flames want to ante up for all the costs for a CFL stadium, sure, if not, then dont build it.
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01-29-2014, 11:26 AM
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#1319
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Not cheering for losses
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I'd bet good money on west village being the new location.
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01-29-2014, 11:35 AM
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#1320
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Calgary
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I'm getting soooooooo sick of this new arena garbage.
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