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Old 01-28-2014, 11:16 PM   #101
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:16 PM   #102
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
Taking away credit for scoring on a backup goalie?

C'mon man. Wheather you have scored on Antii Raanta or Corey Crawford, he still got two goals. And looking at those goals he for sure would have still scored them on Crawford.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:18 PM   #103
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Also have to say Giordano's got some awesome numbers this year.

25 points in 35 games and nearing 10 goals already, (which for any d-man would be considered outstanding output over a full season). He should have another too but for that horrible botched call in that one Oilers game on his beauty goal.

For me, he's an automatic emergency call up for Canada. At least he's making a hell of a case for it.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:18 PM   #104
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
You should change your Sig. Its 2014 now and still PRODUCING at the NHL.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:20 PM   #105
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
Haha! Is this your new "out"? Guess what, the Flames won't be seeing very many starters over the next few years. I guess this means that none of the points our guys score from here on out count for anything.

Edit: Raanta is also 12-2-3 with a .904 SV% and a 2.4 GAA, which includes tonight's game.

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I'd of of thanked your post for being new here, but you said "all and all". It's: "all in all".

I'll forever be the first grammar Nazi that you ran into here (and there will be many)!

Bah! Just 'cause we won, welcome anyway!
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:24 PM   #107
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
The way things are shaping up, Stajan, while proving to be our #1 C for this year, plays more of a #3 C role. Next year I imagine Backs as #1, Monahan as #2, Stajan as #3.

He has been having a phenomenal year considering expectations. Keep on fighting the... fight. Can't wait for net years sig update.
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:24 PM   #108
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
Well, first of all, your consistent position is that he isn't even an NHL player. I hope you now recognize how ridiculous that is.

As to "Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre", the Flames as a team don't score, sitting second last in the league in goals per game.

In 05/06 they sat in a similar position. Langkow was their top scoring centre with 59 points.

Since Backlund got put permanently on a top line (28 games) he has 16 points. Pro rated that's a 50 points season.

Similar teams, similar production.
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^ Indeed he played a good game against a great team - even if it was vs. their backup? 3rd String Goalie?

His issue has always been ability to show up consistently on a score sheet as he is simply not built to be a 3rd line gritty centre. Scoring is the only way to be considered a 2nd line centre.
He's our 1C right now and playing like it.

But OK, we'll wait til 2015 so the crow will taste that much worse for you.
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I can say with confidence, there is not a single frame of Revenge of the Sith that's as interesting as this Episode 3.



EDIT: I'd also like to take a moment to mention that since I arbitrarily decided to start doing these following the Phoenix game, they haven't lost. Make of that what you will.
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I hate to jinx it, but what I need to see Backlund do, is keep producing close to this extended clip AND stay healthy for the remainder of the year.

His 2 weaknesses have been consistency and health. He sure has shown me consistency this year.
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I hate to jinx it, but what I need to see Backlund do, is keep producing close to this extended clip AND stay healthy for the remainder of the year.

His 2 weaknesses have been consistency and health. He sure has shown me consistency this year.
See, this is fine. It's okay to think that. Some may disagree, (I agree for the most part) but the irrational hate for this guy needs to stop.

EDIT: irrational hate for Backlund needs to stop*

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Old 01-28-2014, 11:41 PM   #113
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Damn I bet if they announced Canada Olympic roster now instead of when they did, Giordano would have made it. (I realize there is a deadline)
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:43 PM   #114
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Damn I bet if they announced Canada Olympic roster now instead of when they did, Giordano would have made it. (I realize there is a deadline)
Who would be off?
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Old 01-28-2014, 11:48 PM   #116
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Some things worthy of note:

Ramo is top 30 in the league in GAA (which would put him technically in 'starter' territory in that category), and has managed to maintain a .500 record at 10-10-4, despite the team playing in front of him. I'd say he's doing a pretty commendable job considering he's been out of the league for several years. He's looking to have some promise and for that I'm glad he's signed through next year. I'm interested to see what he can do over that time.

Berra, comparably, is 6-14-2 without a regulation win and well into backup territory in terms of stats.
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Who got the fireman's hat tonight?

Man I feel good, I was dissing Jones a couple games ago and ever since, he's shut me up. Lovin his play right now. Backs is playing in beast mode right now. Love how he got in Shaw's face after Shaw hit him in the corner.
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Some things worthy of note:

Ramo is top 30 in the league in GAA (which would put him technically in 'starter' territory in that category), and has managed to maintain a .500 record at 10-10-4, despite the team playing in front of him. I'd say he's doing a pretty commendable job considering he's been out of the league for several years. He's looking to have some promise and for that I'm glad he's signed through next year. I'm interested to see what he can do over that time.

Berra, comparably, is 6-14-2 without a regulation win and well into backup territory in terms of stats.
Isn't there only 30 teams?
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Some things worthy of note:

Ramo is top 30 in the league in GAA (which would put him technically in 'starter' territory in that category), and has managed to maintain a .500 record at 10-10-4, despite the team playing in front of him. I'd say he's doing a pretty commendable job considering he's been out of the league for several years. He's looking to have some promise and for that I'm glad he's signed through next year. I'm interested to see what he can do over that time.

Berra, comparably, is 6-14-2 without a regulation win and well into backup territory in terms of stats.

Ramo has exceeded my expectations, Berra is about what I expected. I think Hartley has managed our goalies exceptionally well.

All that said, I agree that I would like to see about 8-10 more Berra starts before I judge whether or not he should be re-signed. I don't think anybody can really be sure of what he is or what he can be yet.

Ramo responded extremely well to a long bench period with coaching, but he had had previous NHL ice experience.

I would also like a look at Joni Ortio at some point.
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Isn't there only 30 teams?
Indeed, but there are many more goalies that have played than teams. So I'm going by the idea that 1-30 is starter territory and 31-60 is where most backup-caliber goalies would place.
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