[News] Shane O'Brien assigned to Heat. Breen recalled.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Matty81

50-60 points with first line and pp time and playing with the best guys on the team is pretty terrible imo. Especially when you don't play a 2 way game.

He doesn't play on the PP first unit or 1st line, plays on the shutdown line with Stastny and Landeskog. Plays the PK sometimes too.

[Rubicant]

Maybe O'Brien refused to do community work.

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by $ven27

A 50-60 point winger at 3.5m per year should've gotten more than buyout candidates. That's it in a nutshell IMO

You forget the year he had in TB, his attitude after Iginla was traded, the two times here he's asked to be traded and Montreal didn't want him back. He's got a reputation that if he doesn't get his own way, he pouts. Do you want to take a chance on this player? I'd wager more than a few teams didn't want him.

[FBI]

Kills me to say this but Butler is clearly better.

[handgroen]

Originally Posted by $ven27

A 50-60 point winger at 3.5m per year should've gotten more than buyout candidates. That's it in a nutshell IMO

tanguay has 10 points this year, argument is hollow, like a nutshell, IMO nobody wins that trade.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by handgroen

tanguay has 10 points this year, argument is hollow, like a nutshell, IMO nobody wins that trade,

He has only played 14 games this season. Last night was his first game since November 2, and he got an assist.

10 points in 14 games is about 60 over a full season.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by handgroen

tanguay has 10 points this year, argument is hollow, like a nutshell, IMO nobody wins that trade.

He's only played 14 games..

[SeanCharles]

Originally Posted by $ven27

He doesn't play on the PP first unit or 1st line, plays on the shutdown line with Stastny and Landeskog. Plays the PK sometimes too.

He meant when he was here playing with Iggy et al.

[DOOM]

Originally Posted by codynw

He's only played 14 games..

Still only 10 points..

[saXon]

Originally Posted by codynw

He's only played 14 games..

Exactly....he's only played 14 games. How is that positive value if you're always injured?

See David Moss.

[Tinordi]

The Tanguay trade was no where near as bad as people make it out to be.

A guy who didn't want to be here and would have been a questionable presence in a rebuild for a guy who's overpaid but that don't matter anyway because the cap is the least of this team's concerns.

Infact, once again the issue that most fans seem to not be able to grasp is the cap floor next year. It's a real problem. David Jones helps us in so far as we hit the floor.

Does Tanguay being on this team make us a 26th placed team instead of a 27th? If that's what you care about then, I don't know what to say.

[btimbit]

I don't think he's as brutal as most people are saying, I had low expectations to begin with and he pretty much came as advertised. but he's definitely worse than anyone else. Butler been playing better than Wideman lately, let alone SOB. No issue with him getting waived, hopefully makes it to abby, but if he gets claimed, Meh.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by saXon

Exactly....he's only played 14 games. How is that positive value if you're always injured?

See David Moss.

He's not always injured, he got hurt once, he just happened to miss half the season because of it.

[Mike F]

Originally Posted by $ven27

He doesn't play on the PP first unit or 1st line, plays on the shutdown line with Stastny and Landeskog. Plays the PK sometimes too.

First, Tanguay has played 14 games this year, and only 1 since November, continuing his usual pattern of being often injured.

However, in that time he, Stastny, and Landeskog have the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th most ice time per game, and Tanguay has the highest PP time on ice per game, amongst forwards. Not exactly 3rd line checker role

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Ring of Fire

This isn't surprising. Acquiring O'Brien was all Feaster. He gave up a first rounder to Anaheim to get O'Brien when he was in Tampa. Picking up O'Brien in the Tanguay trade was picking a bad contract. In the Canucks game when we were down to 4 dmen, O'Brien didn't even play 20 min so it seems pretty clear Hartley doesn't like him either.

Really sums up Feaster's competency .... doesn't it?

Overpays Sarich when he re-signed him, signs a known pouter in Tanguay to a 4 year extension, then a year later he has to dump both contracts 2 other bad contracts. Picks up SOB again, who everybody knows is a terrible player, when he formerly gave up a 1st round draft pick.

Unbelievable really .... so glad we canned him.

[$ven27]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

You forget the year he had in TB, his attitude after Iginla was traded, the two times here he's asked to be traded and Montreal didn't want him back. He's got a reputation that if he doesn't get his own way, he pouts. Do you want to take a chance on this player? I'd wager more than a few teams didn't want him.

How is his Tampa Bay season even relevant? It was years ago. Do you have any proof of these claims? (Montreal didn't want him back, he has a rep of pouting)
He may not be a trooper like Gio but he's certainly no pouter/lazy like the Kovalevs and Kostitsyns' of the hockey world. He should've gotten more, there's no debating that whatsoever.

Originally Posted by Mike F

First, Tanguay has played 14 games this year, and only 1 since November, continuing his usual pattern of being often injured.

However, in that time he, Stastny, and Landeskog have the 2nd, 3rd, & 4th most ice time per game, and Tanguay has the highest PP time on ice per game, amongst forwards. Not exactly 3rd line checker role

Yes, as I said Stastny he and Landeskog make up the shutdown line. But he's not on the top line of Duchene ROR and Parenteau/McGinn.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Every player in that deal is overpaid. It was teams trading bad contracts. Everyone understands that. At least most do

Yeah I think a lot of people do understand that, but at least the other two contracts we traded deserve to be in the NHL.

Jones is trending dangerously close to that line...

I don't think Tanguay had a ton of value nor did Sarich (negative), but it is looking like we came out much worse.

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by $ven27

How is his Tampa Bay season even relevant? It was years ago. Do you have any proof of these claims? (Montreal didn't want him back, he has a rep of pouting)
He may not be a trooper like Gio but he's certainly no pouter/lazy like the Kovalevs and Kostitsyns' of the hockey world. He should've gotten more, there's no debating that whatsoever.

And yet here we are debating it. So apparently there is

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Yeah I think a lot of people do understand that, but at least the other two contracts we traded deserve to be in the NHL.

Jones is trending dangerously close to that line...

Yeah the worst part of any contract in the deal is the term remaining on Jones

[Fire]

I'm a bit surprised because O'Brien was one of the few physical defenseman but I guess that was good enough to forgive his other deficiencies. I thought the Flames had too many defenseman signed for next season, so I'm not complaining.