[News] Shane O'Brien assigned to Heat. Breen recalled.

[SeanCharles]

The one thing I didn't like about the trade was 2yrs on O'Brien's contract.

Tanguay and Sarich wanted out so trading them was for the best.

Jones and Tanguay's contracts were essentially a wash. Tanguay was getting older and I knew injury would likely plague him moving forward so getting a younger, bigger Jones wasn't terrible. He is serviceable.

But inheriting O'Brien's 2 years compared to Sarich's one I figured was a mistake.

Hopefully he is claimed. But I doubt it.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Ironically the player that's had the biggest impact out of that deal is Sarich.

Which most of us could have predicted when it happened. Sarich has always been more useful than the Flames acted.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Drury18

If Klesla, whose actually proven he can play a good shut down defence game on more then one occasion, is passed over at that price then O'Brien doesn't stand a chance.

Better defence have passed through. So hopefully Burke has a trade planned otherwise we will have a $2M player in Abbotsford.

I don't think they will send him down.

[trackercowe]

Can't we just use a compliance buyout on him? Might as well, if they aren't intending on using it on someone else.

[Drury18]

I think Burke would. I think he would send him down and bring up Billins because he can just to prove a point.

[Buck Murdock]

I'd rather have Sarich back.

[Geeoff]

Can't we go back and trade Tanguay and Sarich for 7th round draft picks?

[The Original FFIV]

I'm going to read into this a bit.

Detroit has reportedly shown interest in Cammy. Samuelsson makes almost exactly half of what Cammy makes but has a NTC and unlikely to waive it to come here. We claim Samuelsson, take 1/2 of Cammy's salary and trade him to Detroit for a first and a prospect so Detroit makes their cap work.

O'Brien will presumably clear waivers. Detroit has a truculent winger in the minors making almost the same amount as O'Brien (Tootoo). If O'Brien clears we deal him to Detroit who need D depth for Tootoo.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Good riddance? I hate to break it to CP, but nobody is claiming this guy and the flames will still have him next year.

To think, i've seen posts in the last couple of weeks saying that they thought SOB was alright. Glad management is smarter then them.

Yeah he's likely going to be Flames property until the end of the deal as no team will take him. Personally I would like to see the Flames buy him and D. Jones out and use the cap savings to bring in a pricey free agent that can play and contribute. Hard to imagine the owners having an appetite for buyouts given the Flames are pretty well breaking even now and will probably looking at their sellout streak ending in the next few years.

[Ring of Fire]

This isn't surprising. Acquiring O'Brien was all Feaster. He gave up a first rounder to Anaheim to get O'Brien when he was in Tampa. Picking up O'Brien in the Tanguay trade was picking a bad contract. In the Canucks game when we were down to 4 dmen, O'Brien didn't even play 20 min so it seems pretty clear Hartley doesn't like him either.

[Mike F]

Strikes me as an overreaction to a bad night.

IMO, O'Brien hasn't been as physical as I expected, but otherwise has been very serviceable as a bottom pairing defenseman.

Going into last game he'd been a -7, which isn't bad considering how little offense he brings and the team has overall. He brought less stupidity and bad penalties than I expected, and did (again) a serviceable job of providing 5 or 6 shifts per period where he didn't hurt the team and spelled the top 4.

Not sure who Burke sees as more competent to step in right now.

[taffeyb]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah he's likely going to be Flames property until the end of the deal as no team will take him. Personally I would like to see the Flames buy him and D. Jones out and use the cap savings to bring in a pricey free agent that can play and contribute. Hard to imagine the owners having an appetite for buyouts given the Flames are pretty well breaking even now and will probably looking at their sellout streak ending in the next few years.

Sellout streak? You see all of the empty seats in the Dome? Plus the fact that you can still get tickets on ticketmaster for most games. It's a sell out streak only on paper...Edmonton has a similar issue with their supposed sellout streak...their fans are calling them on it...

[Enoch Root]

This could be to make room on the roster for another player

But it also potentially helps their cap situation to send him down (assuming he is still down there next year as well). He would still count against the cap, well part of his salary anyway, and they are really going to have a very tough time getting to the floor.

[Jacks]

Originally Posted by trackercowe

Can't we just use a compliance buyout on him? Might as well, if they aren't intending on using it on someone else.

If they decide to buy him out they might as well use a regular buyout. We could use the cap hit.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Yeah he's likely going to be Flames property until the end of the deal as no team will take him. Personally I would like to see the Flames buy him and D. Jones out and use the cap savings to bring in a pricey free agent that can play and contribute. Hard to imagine the owners having an appetite for buyouts given the Flames are pretty well breaking even now and will probably looking at their sellout streak ending in the next few years.

Assuming they don't re-sign Cammalleri, they are looking at having to throw as much as $10m at free agents next year already.

If they bought out Jones and O'Brien, they would have to find something like $15m in free agent takers. That would require throwing completely stupid money around.

By the way, the Flames were better than breaking even when they were spending to the cap. I would think they are very profitable now - like the Oilers were in 2011.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Assuming they don't re-sign Cammalleri, they are looking at having to throw as much as $10m at free agents next year already.

If they bought out Jones and O'Brien, they would have to find something like $15m in free agent takers. That would require throwing completely stupid money around.

By the way, the Flames were better than breaking even when they were spending to the cap. I would think they are very profitable now - like the Oilers were in 2011.

Don't have to throw stupid money around, just get guys on stupid deals that teams are wanting to get rid of and hope you can get a pick or two as compensation. Too much panic on this board about hitting the floor.

[Freeway]

Cammalleri isn't ready yet. Glencross isn't nearly ready yet.

Street, Byron and Blair Jones would all require waivers to head down.

[sureLoss]

probably has something to do with O'Brien coming back overweight after the last olympic break :P

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/obrien-apology/

"I guess I slipped up a little bit with that over the Olympic break and that’s not very professional. Obviously they weren’t too happy about it."

keep him playing and away from temptation...

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Cammalleri isn't ready yet. Glencross isn't nearly ready yet.

Street, Byron and Blair Jones would all require waivers to head down.

I don't get the bolded part? I think all 3 would clear waivers.

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

probably has something to do with O'Brien coming back overweight after the last olympic break :P

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/obrien-apology/



keep him playing and away from temptation...

That was 4 years ago. What does that have to do with now?