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Old 01-24-2014, 10:42 PM   #181
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Sorry, but famous or not, drinking and driving is not what every 19 year old does.
Not anymore, but in his grandfathers day, different story.
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Old 01-24-2014, 11:41 PM   #182
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“Bieber gets a $2k fine for DUI, resisting arrest, drag racing w/o license. Bob Hartley gets $25k for starting his 4th line in a hockey game.”
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I have a theory that all these teens leaving their teens have a following, media awareness and a compelling reason to stay on top of their stardom. The new stardom is basically like a twitter following. Your fan base is your fan, but they are a moving target. So you need to only impress them in order to make it as an adult star.

When JB started he was appealing to a broad range of girls from 8 to 17, but now that time has passed he may appeal to some 12 year old and less 21 year olds. So the demographic is changing. In order for the Myley's and Beibs to survive they meltdown, to build back up, because that's what everyone wants to see.

I think they do have a little fun along the way but make no mistake, these kids transforming into adult entertainers because they are products and that they are also complicit in their addiction to be on top, is entirely fabricated. Too many of these stories have played out.

The arrest, the $2500 fine, the actions are all just a timed event to start to target his aging fanbase.
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He has not been convicted, and thus has not been fined.
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Old 01-25-2014, 11:22 AM   #185
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I have a theory that all these teens leaving their teens have a following, media awareness and a compelling reason to stay on top of their stardom. The new stardom is basically like a twitter following. Your fan base is your fan, but they are a moving target. So you need to only impress them in order to make it as an adult star.

When JB started he was appealing to a broad range of girls from 8 to 17, but now that time has passed he may appeal to some 12 year old and less 21 year olds. So the demographic is changing. In order for the Myley's and Beibs to survive they meltdown, to build back up, because that's what everyone wants to see.

I think they do have a little fun along the way but make no mistake, these kids transforming into adult entertainers because they are products and that they are also complicit in their addiction to be on top, is entirely fabricated. Too many of these stories have played out.

The arrest, the $2500 fine, the actions are all just a timed event to start to target his aging fanbase.
Wow that's a pretty elaborate theory and sounds a little too conspiracy theory-ish for my liking.

What's more likely in my mind is that this a young man that had everything except a normal upbringing, which is a pretty key factor into not turning into a roaring a-hole. I bet he is told "Yes" to doing whatever he wants, is likely very entitled, not overly educated, wealthy beyond his wildest dreams and now has little to strive for. The culmination of all these aspects, and similar to other celebrity meltdowns is that when you have that much power and no direction you turn to drugs, alcohol and partying to fill the time and to be cool.

He's just a kid trying to make up for lost time, this is probably a bump in the road that people won't care about in a year, and he'll most likely fade into never-mention land in due course. As long as he doesn't succumb to fierce addiction he'll be ok and still have his millions but that's the question.

Thinking it is some kind of plan when it is probably just the opposite, a random unraveling of debauchery events is quite a stretch for me. He is most likely a moron and in a sense you have to pity people who essentially sacrifice their lives for celebrity.
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It's too bad he can't be deported, apparently you need to either be convicted of a crime and sentenced to over a year or commit a violent crime. I didn't know it was that hard to be deported from the US

I saw a picture of Bieber's dad online yesterday - and as they say - the apple never falls too far from the tree.......
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Wow that's a pretty elaborate theory and sounds a little too conspiracy theory-ish for my liking.

What's more likely in my mind is that this a young man that had everything except a normal upbringing, which is a pretty key factor into not turning into a roaring a-hole. I bet he is told "Yes" to doing whatever he wants, is likely very entitled, not overly educated, wealthy beyond his wildest dreams and now has little to strive for. The culmination of all these aspects, and similar to other celebrity meltdowns is that when you have that much power and no direction you turn to drugs, alcohol and partying to fill the time and to be cool.

He's just a kid trying to make up for lost time, this is probably a bump in the road that people won't care about in a year, and he'll most likely fade into never-mention land in due course. As long as he doesn't succumb to fierce addiction he'll be ok and still have his millions but that's the question.

Thinking it is some kind of plan when it is probably just the opposite, a random unraveling of debauchery events is quite a stretch for me. He is most likely a moron and in a sense you have to pity people who essentially sacrifice their lives for celebrity.
I disagree with it being a conspiracy theory. These people are products. The music you hear and listen to is engineered, promoted and built without the artist in mind. Beiber is a product that is targeted at pre-teens and teens. Now that he is moving forward his demographic has to change.

Look at Hanna Montana. It's no coincidence that after her MTV nakey performance with her tongue hanging out (like every picture) she is no longer linked with her pre-teen-teen persona. She also got the number 1 album and single because of the stunt.

The level of corporate involvement from Disney, Fox, etc has changed the scoped of what it is to be a recording artist. The proof is in the quality.

Fame today is not about talent but more about familiarity and household impressions. It's like twitter. You have followers or you don't. The value of these stars to the corporates that made them is their followers. These followers age. That's my simple point.
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