Cammy and flames talking extension

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

When was the last time a sign and trade occurred in the NHL? It doesn't happen.

Kris Russell.....last summer

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Kris Russell.....last summer

Not really. Actually not even close.

[Yamer]

Unless Bob McKenzie or Elliotte Friedman have any kind of legitimate conversation discussing it then I'm not going to buy it....especially if it comes from Sportsnet "insiders".

[Vulcan]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
When was the last time a sign and trade occurred in the NHL? It doesn't happen.

IIRC Heatley was signed by Atlanta and than traded to Ottawa but I think that was with all parties aware of what was going on.

[Oling_Roachinen]

Originally Posted by Vulcan

IIRC Heatley was signed by Atlanta and than traded to Ottawa.

It was Hossa who had just signed and then was traded for Heatley. (Edit2: Ottawa signed Hossa to avoid the arbitration hearing and an hour later shipped him off to Atlanta for the RFA Heatley. Heatley near immediately signed his contract with Ottawa.)
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Russell was absolutely a sign and trade, but a different circumstance and a rarity.

[Flames Draft Watcher]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not really. Actually not even close.

Not sure what you mean here. Kris Russell was definitely a sign and trade this summer. The Blues signed him and immediately dealt to the Flames. That's a sign and trade.

[Cole436]

I hope this is true. Cammy has stepped up as a leader for the kids and been a big part of that dressing room. I'm not sure why he wouldn't want to go cup chasing at this stage of his career, but I'd welcome here back with open arms.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Not sure what you mean here. Kris Russell was definitely a sign and trade this summer. The Blues signed him and immediately dealt to the Flames. That's a sign and trade.

Was misinformed, so Russell signed a one year deal?

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not really. Actually not even close.

Instead of being ridiculously arrogant about it why don't you explain to the guy you're quoting why you think he's incorrect.

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by timbit

Not really. Actually not even close.

Then clearly I'm confused on the terminology? Blues signed Russell to a contract, then traded him to the Flames the same day for a 5th. What am I missing?

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=676823

[kyuss275]

Originally Posted by Goodlad

Then clearly I'm confused on the terminology? Blues signed Russell to a contract, then traded him to the Flames the same day for a 5th. What am I missing?

Its a sign and trade, but there were other factors involved. Russel was a RFA with arbitration rights. The Flames wanted nothing to do with arbitration, so they made sure Russell signed with St. Louis before he was traded. Cammi is not RFA, nor does he have arbitration rights. There is no chance that Cammi does a sign and trade, nor do i think there is a chance in hell he signs a one year extension.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher

Not sure what you mean here. Kris Russell was definitely a sign and trade this summer. The Blues signed him and immediately dealt to the Flames. That's a sign and trade.

Was misinformed, so Russell signed a one year deal?

[Goodlad]

Originally Posted by timbit

Was misinformed, so Russell signed a one year deal?

The one-year deal was last summer, which expires this year. There hasn't been any word on the new contract yet.

[Freeway]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

I feel that after the Stajan extension these "insiders" are now just throwing names out there and say they're also talking contracts trying to sound smart if it comes to pass.

I like Roger Millions, good host, good interview but he's never been much of an insider. Ditto for the Edmonton guys. Hell, Roger had Cammaleri asking for a trade in the summer.

There's no telling if both are indeed true. The Flames could both be talking extension AND trade. If one doesn't work out, you want to have an option that's not losing the player for nothing as a UFA.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Instead of being ridiculously arrogant about it why don't you explain to the guy you're quoting why you think he's incorrect.

You are right. I made a mistake, almost like relying on EKLUND and basing opinions from him as fact.

My apologies.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by timbit

You are right. I made a mistake, almost like relying on EKLUND and basing opinions from him as fact.

My apologies.

Don't know what that middle part was about, unless you've confused me with someone else. Not an Eklund follower here.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Don't know what that middle part was about, unless you've confused me with someone else. Not an Eklund follower here.

Except for the ROR gaff you made, based on your belief in him.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by timbit

Except for the ROR gaff you made, based on your belief in him.

You're going to have to go into more detail here.

[Moderator]

Take it to PM guys.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally Posted by Moderator

Take it to PM guys.

Fair enough, that'll make it easier for him to weasle out of it I guess.