I am not black, I don't think it is my position to "ok" the use of that word. Much like it is not my position to tell a female she can't have an abortion.
I am not black, I don't think it is my position to "ok" the use of that word. Much like it is not my position to tell a female she can't have an abortion.
I would not use it, ever.
What a ludicrous comparison. No offence.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by puckluck2
Well, deal with it. I wasn't cheering for Canada either way. Nothing worse than arrogant Canadian fans. They'd be lucky to finish 4th. Quote me on that. They have a bad team and that is why I won't be cheering for them.
Cool dude alert! We got a cool dude over here, everyone! Droppin' the "n word" in casual conversation to get a rise out of people like a badass! Cool dude right here! Tell your friends!
The Following User Says Thank You to sun For This Useful Post:
As an aside, and in respect of TBQH, is it me, or is it really unsettling when white people take it upon themselves to 'fight' to use the N-word, no matter how intellectualized they try to make their position?
It's not just about a word. That's just the topic the OP began. It racism at a whole. Much like the professor. It's a word that carries so much power that came from such a horrible place in time yet it was turned around into a form of brotherhood. A wonderful and triumphant historical event, but it's just one piece of victory against racism.
I'm not a fan of Madonna but her post is a non issue and just a bunch of people over reacting. That's really the point here.
It's absolutely stupid to discuss it on this forum because racism is such a difficult subject, but without discussion we don't grow.
It's not just about a word. That's just the topic the OP began. It racism at a whole. Much like the professor. It's a word that carries so much power that came from such a horrible place in time yet it was turned around into a form of brotherhood. A wonderful and triumphant historical event, but it's just one piece of victory against racism.
I'm not a fan of Madonna but her post is a non issue and just a bunch of people over reacting. That's really the point here.
It's absolutely stupid to discuss it on this forum because racism is such a difficult subject, but without discussion we don't grow.
Says who? You?
Again, how often do you use this word as a proclamation of victory against racism around black people you don't know?
With a statement that ridiculous, I have to just assume you're trolling now and just move on.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by MisterJoji
Johnny eats garbage and isn’t 100% committed.
The Following User Says Thank You to nik- For This Useful Post:
Cool dude alert! We got a cool dude over here, everyone! Droppin' the "n word" in casual conversation to get a rise out of people like a badass! Cool dude right here! Tell your friends!
No Sun. You're baiting and I'm not accepting it by throwing angry insults back, but I think you get that sun.
Every time I see a documentary or interview where someone asks a black person if it is ever acceptable for a white person to use the n-word, the reaction is almost always the same: thousand yard stare, slow shake of the head and them saying "no....never."
Since my ancestors aren't recently coming off of 400 years of slavery and aren't still dealing with absurd levels oppression, I decided not to argue the point.
The Following 6 Users Say Thank You to Matata For This Useful Post:
In my courses, I’m more interested in raising questions than in finding answers to them. I think the questions lead to potential self-discovery. It’s not about whether or not a person uses the n-word. I try to move the class beyond easy binaries—“Well, blacks can use it, but whites can’t.” That line of thinking doesn’t take us very far at all. What we are trying to do, at least the way I have conceptualized and practiced this discovery, is so much more. The class strives to teach us all manner of ways to talk about, think about and to understand ourselves, and each other, and why and how we fit in the rest of the world.
It's more about moving past the race card then anything and we have a long way to go.
read about schemas, lexicons and the collective consciousness and you will understand how horrible your opinion is. Simply saying the word keeps it in the english lexicon thereby perpetuating racism, even if inadvertently. Using the word keeps it in the public awareness and forces it to pertain it's original meaning and impact. It's like calling someone a porch monkay, it's not the exact same as the original word but it keeps the meaning in the collective knowledge base of the public.
So you are in fact perpetuating racism inadvertently and denying it. Intent does not equal result. The less people there are like you saying it the less the children in the next generation will ever hear it let alone know what it means and the less the racial division is continued, but hey, if it makes you feel cool. There is no argument you can make that can counter the fact that you are personally responsible for a small portion of the racial division in our society. If society were to allow the word to fade into obscurity then it obviously wouldn't be a problem anymore, there are innumerable racial slurs from past generations that are completely ambiguous due to them no longer being in the public lexicon.
Again, how often do you use this word as a proclamation of victory against racism around black people you don't know?
Just from reading about the black youth movement that started about 20 years ago to reclaim and take it's power away. That will never happen however, but I support it.
It's a big part of hip-hop culture. I, and my friends, grew up in the hip-hop culture and subsequently my friends, Black, Asian, East Indian and Caucasian would use it in our environment. Mostly it started while playing basketball. Of course you don't want to offend people so it stays with in your comfort areas. Much like my example earlier. If there was the 6 of us and you there we'd be comfortable in our environment. It's the application of the use in a public forum were heads turn and people can be offended. Madonna put out the picture on her public forum to millions and people responded much like others in this thread.
There is a funny memory where we were meeting up at one of my friends house. I come in with the hug and do our "What's up my #####?!" Then release the hug and go around the corner to where my buddy brought his black friend which I never met before. I came in and did the same thing to him and we laughed. He was expecting me to be embarrassed or taken back but the timing of it was priceless. I've seen him a few times since and we still laughed about it.
It's not the word but the double standard. I am not a fan of double standards, but they are here and most likely to stay.
Like Undercoverbrother and the abortion double standard.
Much a do about blowing stuff up just because.
Last edited by To Be Quite Honest; 01-19-2014 at 07:28 PM.
I, and my friends, grew up in the hip-hop culture and subsequently my friends, Black, Asian, East Indian and Caucasian would use it in our environment.
It's a big part of hip-hop culture. I, and my friends, grew up in the hip-hop culture and subsequently my friends, Black, Asian, East Indian and Caucasian would use it in our environment.
I grew up in the exact same environment and I'm still aware that it's a racist word and don't use it. I'm assuming you didn't grow up with these people with a complete lack of contact with the outside world.
