01-16-2014, 12:49 PM
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Location: Niceland
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i somehow blame the chiefs and tribe council guys for the sad living conditions.
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01-16-2014, 12:50 PM
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#42
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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Got life expectancy greater than 40? Thank a white man.
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Of course, the reasonable response to this is to be indignant white people.
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01-16-2014, 12:54 PM
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#43
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First Line Centre
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Is North America the only place in the world where this has occurred? Australia maybe? Doing a half ass job of assimilating a group of people seems to the biggest mistake that could have happened.
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01-16-2014, 12:54 PM
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#44
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Originally Posted by sun
What an odd choice of font.
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Font + colour = probably not the message they're trying to convey.
Also, I think that if I walked up to a person of First Nations heritage and said, "Hey Indian, thanks for the land", the encounter would probably not end well for me.
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01-16-2014, 12:54 PM
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#45
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Originally Posted by PsYcNeT
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Also ironic since disease from white people killed so much of the native population 
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01-16-2014, 12:55 PM
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#46
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Lifetime Suspension
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Yes. They need more land to do nothing with.
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01-16-2014, 12:58 PM
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#47
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Marseilles Of The Prairies
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CalgaryPuck: When Sun Media comment pages are just a bit too racist.
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Settle down there, Temple Grandin.
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01-16-2014, 12:59 PM
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Shouldn't I be thanking the whites for conquering said land instead?
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01-16-2014, 01:04 PM
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#49
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
Is North America the only place in the world where this has occurred? Australia maybe? Doing a half ass job of assimilating a group of people seems to the biggest mistake that could have happened.
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Large parts of Africa say hi.....
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01-16-2014, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
How long can someone ride the coattails of their ancestors?
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Us white guys have been doing it a long time.
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01-16-2014, 01:26 PM
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#51
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by Coys1882
Is North America the only place in the world where this has occurred? Australia maybe? Doing a half ass job of assimilating a group of people seems to the biggest mistake that could have happened.
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Australia is an even bigger mess than we are. They had their own parallel of the residential school system called "The Stolen Generation". It was a government santioned cultural genocide. It makes the school system look like a blip on a radar beside Hiroshima.
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01-16-2014, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
Large parts of Africa say hi.....
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We can probably just say European colonialism says hi.
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01-16-2014, 02:00 PM
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#53
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I think that unless the mindset shifts from still laying blame to focusing on fixing the wrongs/issues then the issues/wrongs will always remain. It would be nice for the younger generation to focus on change rather than blame.
Yes, I realize this is easy for me to type as a white canadian.
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It's pretty hard to forgive and reconcile when you're still facing insane amounts of systemic inequality. This is the problem with the common white person lens when it comes to First Nations issues, we're under this false assumption that the bad #### has come to an end. It's still happening.
People can talk all they want about the failures within various tribal leaderships but that really overlooks the #### sandwiches many of these tribes were force-fed to begin with.
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01-16-2014, 02:04 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by rubecube
It's pretty hard to forgive and reconcile when you're still facing insane amounts of systemic inequality. This is the problem with the common white person lens when it comes to First Nations issues, we're under this false assumption that the bad #### has come to an end. It's still happening.
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I am under no false assumption, I know that the issues are ongoing. However, I believe that the focus should be on moving forward and resolving isses. IMO, this shirt does not do that. Rather this shirt continues to foster a subtle hatered of whitey.
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01-16-2014, 02:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I am under no false assumption, I know that the issues are ongoing. However, I believe that the focus should be on moving forward and resolving isses. IMO, this shirt does not do that. Rather this shirt continues to foster a subtle hatered of whitey.
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Why is it on the oppressed to make good with their oppressors? Shouldn't the concilliation begin with the agents of the state?
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01-16-2014, 02:07 PM
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Fort McMurray, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I am under no false assumption, I know that the issues are ongoing. However, I believe that the focus should be on moving forward and resolving isses. IMO, this shirt does not do that. Rather this shirt continues to foster a subtle hatered of whitey.
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Subtle? Not in my experience.
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01-16-2014, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by undercoverbrother
I am under no false assumption, I know that the issues are ongoing. However, I believe that the focus should be on moving forward and resolving issues. IMO, this shirt does not do that. Rather this shirt continues to foster a subtle hatred of whitey.
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Subtle? 
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01-16-2014, 02:08 PM
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#58
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Why is it on the oppressed to make good with their oppressors? Shouldn't the conciliation begin with the agents of the state?
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For conciliation to work, both sides have to work towards it. If one side is and one side isn't, it won't work.
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01-16-2014, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Victoria
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Originally Posted by WhiteTiger
For conciliation to work, both sides have to work towards it. If one side is and one side isn't, it won't work.
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Agreed, but the government has not put forth anything that can really be considered a sincere effort to reconcile and in fact continues to trample over treaty rights and discriminate against aboriginals. It sounds like what a lot of you want is submission, not concilliation.
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01-16-2014, 02:12 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Sylvan Lake
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Originally Posted by rubecube
Why is it on the oppressed to make good with their oppressors? Shouldn't the concilliation begin with the agents of the state?
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Listen the reconcilliation/settling of land issues of the aboriginal peoples of this land is beyond me, and is (I hope) being handled by smarter people than me.
I believe (you note I said I believe) that to truely move forward there needs to be a focus on the future not the past. I believe that is the way to move forward, and eventually resolve the injustice of the past. I think this type of garment keeps the focus on the past not on the resolution. I, IMO, continues to foster the resentment of aboriginals.
Would my belief/feelings be different if I was aboriginal, I can't say.
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