01-11-2014, 12:39 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Grigorenko refuses to report to the Quebec Remparts. Update: Decides to report
This morning the Sabres assigned Grigorenko to the Remparts, but he refuses to report:
http://blogues.lapresse.ca/remparts/...-les-remparts/
According to the NHL/CHL agreement he cannot play in the AHL or NHL this season:
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Players drafted and playing for CHL teams are ineligible to play in the professional minor leagues (AHL, ECHL) until they are 20 years old (by December 31st of that year)
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If the player is assigned to the CHL after October 1, he was forced to be there for the whole season until his team was eliminated (baring an emergency injury situation for his NHL team).
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His NHL contract should in theory bar him from playing in the KHL as there is an agreement between the two leagues not to sign a player with a contract in the other league. However, the KHL has been to known bend rules for high profile Russian players returning home.
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01-11-2014, 12:40 PM
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#2
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This is why I wouldn't even consider drafting a Russian in the first 2 rounds.
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01-11-2014, 12:41 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Ashasx
This is why I wouldn't even consider drafting a Russian in the first 2 rounds.
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I think if you draft a Russian you must play him as an 18 year old, or else don't draft him.
How did the Sabres not find room for this guy?
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01-11-2014, 12:42 PM
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Some kinda newsbreaker!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Learning Phaneufs skating style
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
How did the Sabres not find room for this guy?
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He has been that bad this season. He can't hold a roster spot on the Sabres.
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01-11-2014, 12:42 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Man oh man. Kids these days.
And they say my generation has entitlement issues. Doesnt he still get NHL money on his ELC because they burned his first year?
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01-11-2014, 12:45 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: On the Bandwagon
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So what would it take to get him to Calgary ?
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01-11-2014, 12:45 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by sureLoss
He has been that bad this season. He can't hold a roster spot on the Sabres.
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It's the Sabres! Play him and finish last or risk losing him for good.
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01-11-2014, 12:46 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by GirlySports
It's the Sabres! Play him and finish last or risk losing him for good.
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Yeah, I dont see what they have to lose other than perhaps a bit of organization structure.
Ie. Playing a kid who is clearly in over his head, it wont do wonders for his development and it sends a bad message to other under-performers that their play doesnt matter.
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01-11-2014, 12:49 PM
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NOT breaking news
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Locke
Yeah, I dont see what they have to lose other than perhaps a bit of organization structure.
Ie. Playing a kid who is clearly in over his head, it wont do wonders for his development and it sends a bad message to other under-performers that their play doesnt matter.
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True but he can practice with the big team and you can limit his ice time.
Is he much worse than Nichuskin? A year older too.
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01-11-2014, 12:49 PM
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Yeah he's been awful. Lazy, disinterested, no effort. Ted Nolan won't have any crap like that on his team. Not surprised he refused to show up.
Oh well, guess it was worth the risk at that point. Happy we made a safe pick with Girgensons two spots later that is so far playing out well.
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01-11-2014, 12:50 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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Originally Posted by FlatLandFlamesFan
So what would it take to get him to Calgary ?
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Baertschi might get it done.
Our first this year would get it done.
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01-11-2014, 12:54 PM
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#12
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Kelowna
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Originally Posted by moon
Baertschi might get it done.
Our first this year would get it done.
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So when he gets in a slump and Burke tries to send him down he can refuse to report to Abby? Pass. At least Baertschi reports and doesn't pull a tantrum.
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01-11-2014, 12:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Edmonton,AB
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Would he be worth baertchi I honestly know nothing about him all I know is he failed to report
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01-11-2014, 12:56 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube
Yeah he's been awful. Lazy, disinterested, no effort.
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So pretty much like all the Sabres then? 
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01-11-2014, 12:57 PM
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Nov 2013
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Originally Posted by moon
Baertschi might get it done.
Our first this year would get it done.
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No thanks then
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01-11-2014, 12:58 PM
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by moon
Baertschi might get it done.
Our first this year would get it done.
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Pass on both, the kid has been brutal and he has a serious lack of give a crap in his game.
I'm with some others where my trust factor on Russian players lately has been eroded and I wouldn't waste a high pick on one unless I was sure that he was what I wanted.
Especially with the KHL paying exceptional tax free dollars, you might burn a first on a player and never ever see him.
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01-11-2014, 12:58 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by FlatLandFlamesFan
So what would it take to get him to Calgary ?
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01-11-2014, 01:00 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Lethbridge
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I am not saying that is what we should trade for him I am saying that is what it would take to get it done.
The Sabres aren't going to want our crappy veterans or second tier prospects.
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01-11-2014, 01:05 PM
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#19
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NYYC
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Unless you get them for dirt cheap or free, just say no to Russians. It's not worth the headache dealing with all their drama.
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01-11-2014, 01:07 PM
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#20
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Calgary
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I'd love love love for the Flames to trade for Grigorenko. He's only 19. I'd rather Grigo than S.Reinhart. But the Sabres would be foolish to give up on the kid so early. But if they do, the Flames should be knocking on Buffalos door.
Hey Look! More Russia-phobes!
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