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Old 01-09-2014, 08:24 PM   #141
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How long before people stop paying to watch this team?
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:25 PM   #142
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there's no excuse having both westgarth and mcgratton suiting up the same game.
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How long before people stop paying to watch this team?
I turned down tickets for this one. Not because I don't want to support them, I do, but I have a big day tomorrow and didn't want to be depressed. Luckily with so many corporate tickets I don't think the Flames have to worry about attendance for quite a while anyway

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Old 01-09-2014, 08:25 PM   #143
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I don't think you can blame hartley for this record if it is worse in 2015-2016 sure fire him but this team is bad and will get worse next year. Just have to be positive and hope we don't go full oiler; at least Buffalo left us the best candidates from the sounds of it.
Hartley is responsible for the system that every other coach has effectively shutdown since december. He doesn't know how to generate offence, it's evident his system doesn't work.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:26 PM   #144
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The point is the flames haven't scored in 5 of the last 10 games. That's unacceptable. It least it should be.
Once the new GM is here he is likely gone.

All firing him now is put a guy like Gelinas or Cloutier in charge for the last ~40 games with likely no change at all.

Perhaps that is one smart thing that Hartley has done is have no real option to step in for him on his staff. Gelinas is awesome but not exactly an experienced guy to run a team like the Flames for the rest of the season.

Maybe Ftorek can come up and make life hell for the team like he seemed to do with the other teams he coached.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:27 PM   #145
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Stempniak will never score again it seems.
He'll probably go on a tear with whoever team gets him for the fourth rounder they'll give up for him. So says the hockey gods.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:27 PM   #146
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Hartley is responsible for the system that every other coach has effectively shutdown since december. He doesn't know how to generate offence, it's evident his system doesn't work.
It was good enough to win the Swiss league championship.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:28 PM   #147
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I would like a new age coach who doesn't try to motivate his team by screaming and threatening to send players to the minors.

You know, change things up a bit.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #148
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Hartley is responsible for the system that every other coach has effectively shutdown since december. He doesn't know how to generate offence, it's evident his system doesn't work.
Does Hartley even have a system? Bleh it doesn't really matter, there is no point in Calgary finishing higher than the bottom 3. As painful as it is to watch.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #149
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Hartley is responsible for the system that every other coach has effectively shutdown since december. He doesn't know how to generate offence, it's evident his system doesn't work.
Is it the system or the parts? He's working with a substandard roster.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #150
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Well at least the Leafs got nuked.

Boy oh boy Canadian teams are just awful.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:29 PM   #151
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The goon line should not be out at all. We need goals, for Christ's sake.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:30 PM   #152
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Hartley is responsible for the system that every other coach has effectively shutdown since december. He doesn't know how to generate offence, it's evident his system doesn't work.
I won't argue that he is some amazing coach because he's not I just don't think a new coach will make a difference we might as well Ron Wilson him and let him coach the crappy years until we see a difference. At the very least he is teaching some defence to our youngsters; something the oilers kids never had.
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I would like a new age coach who doesn't try to motivate his team by screaming and threatening to send players to the minors.

You know, change things up a bit.
Is Hartley a screamer? Looks pretty composed.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:30 PM   #154
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Monahan has been the only decent skater tonight.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:31 PM   #155
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the team missing open nets is hardly the coaches fault
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:31 PM   #156
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Any bets on when Ramo tries to skate the puck down the ice and score himself?
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McGrattan can't skate and can't help out defensively so the least he can do is stand at the top of the zone and cover his d-man but that is twice now he has left his man wide open. Luckily there the Blues went with the other open man or Cole has his second gift goal of the game.

At this point McGrattan might as well just skate off for a change if the puck goes into the Flames zone. It is a 5 on 4 with him out there anyways at least this way the new guy has a chance to get in there and help.
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The goon line should not be out at all. We need goals, for Christ's sake.
We get it, you don't like enforcers. You don't need to post about it at every opportunity.
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Is Hartley a screamer? Looks pretty composed.
I think a lot of it comes from his days with Colorado. To play devils advocate for a minute he was dealing with a different skill set. I'd be yelling to of that group wasn't all guns out in their play
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It was good enough to win the Swiss league championship.
So he should have stayed there. The Swiss league is the 5th best league, maybe lower.

What happens to hockey players that aren't good enough to play in the NHL? The AHL/KHL , then the SEL, then Liiga, then the Swiss league.

I know he has won things in the past, but what has he done for this club since he arrived?

It was fine watching everyone play balls to the wall to start the year, but its all effort and nothing else. Plugging away was fine in October, it's embarrassing in January.
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