Welcome to the Twinky diet - just a couple years too late.
What food you eat has nothing to do with losing weight. Weight loss is simple math. Yes there are some foods that are calorie negative and will help you lose more weight but you could eat nothing but Snickers bars and so long as you are burning more than you are intaking in a day then you will lose weight.
Also dont listen to anyone who has always been skinny on how to lose weight. They know nothing about the subject.
For the Nazi Nutritionist Nation (NNN) yes no one is saying eating only X of something is healthy, this is about weight loss only, not overall health you Nazi Nazi Naziers
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Welcome to the Twinky diet - just a couple years too late.
What food you eat has nothing to do with losing weight. Weight loss is simple math. Yes there are some foods that are calorie negative and will help you lose more weight but you could eat nothing but Snickers bars and so long as you are burning more than you are intaking in a day then you will lose weight.
Also dont listen to anyone is has always been skinny on how to lose weight. They know nothing about the subject.
Losing Weight != Eating Healthy
edit: I just noticed that had I read to the end of your post, I wouldn't have felt the need to post. I will leave this here as a testament to my half-post-reading abilities.
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After a month of eating only McDonald's food, a teacher in Edmonton has lost weight, lowered his blood pressure and won a bet with his biology students, but nutritionists say he's risking his health. Les Sayer set out to recreate the diet behind the hit film Super Size Me, in which Morgan Spurlock's 30-day McBinge ends in a weight gain of 25 pounds and a host of ailments
Ya, I love preparing mechanically separated chicken and then washing it down with ammonia. Yep, nothing like serving up a batch of pink slime at home for the kiddies....
I mean to be condescending with this reply as you were with yours.
What does anything you said have to do with weight loss which is what this thread is about.
I am sure if you search the Off Topic section you can find a support group about how to cope with paying $9 per organic pepper and 3X the amount for Organic "ethical" meat.
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The biggest difficulty in dieting at Mcdonalds would be hunger. All of the fat burns through your 2000 calories very quickly leaving you not many callories to eat with the rest of the day. This makes the diet difficult to sustain and take more willpower then just clean eating.
I think the Calories in Calories out has been proven by looking at various diet plans and they all work about the same. The issue is finding one that you can stick to during the weight loss period and transition you into a sustainable diet long term.
The McDonalds diet is very poor at the two most critical issues.
No one said it does. The point is they are 2 different things although lower weight would mean you are healthier no matter how you go there.
Although you do bring up a good point. If that person lost 50 lbs would he not be healthier simply because of the weight loss no matter what he/she ate to get there?
What this and many other studies are trying to show (the twinky diet was the first that I was made aware of). Is that those to who claim to know how to lose weight (personal trainers and other such fairy tale tellers) tell people that the only way to do it is by only eating egg whites, raw veg, tuna, and whey protein shakes. And that any food that you once liked to eat is evil.
The problem is that skinny people dont know how to lose weight. They read some skinny nutritionists book about weight loss and they tell people what they have read. Yet they have never done so on their own. The only personal trainer I would ever trust is the Fit to Fat to Fit guy cause he actually knows what it means to lose weight.
No one is saying its a health lifestyle, the point that this study and others are trying to make is to debunk all the snake oil personal trainers who say you have to eat healthy to lose weight.
You dont have to eat healthy to lose weight. Maybe it would be better if people lost the weight first and then chose to change to a healthy lifestyle because obviously losing weight by eating healthy is winning the war on obesity.
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You could lose weight on such a diet, but more and more research is pointing towards a case that eliminating meat and animal products from the diet, improves health outcomes and reduces risk of certain diseases (ex. heart disease, cancer, diabetes). Replace process foods with whole foods.
You could lose weight on such a diet, but more and more research is pointing towards a case that eliminating meat and animal products from the diet, improves health outcomes and reduces risk of certain diseases (ex. heart disease, cancer, diabetes). Replace process foods with whole foods.
False. The human body needs animal meats and fats in order to function properly. As long as the meat is grass-fed and hormonal free, eat all the meat you want.
A good documentary I recommend is Fat Head, it debunks a lot of "health" myths out there.
I don’t consider Fat Head to be on the level of a scam, but it is filled with quite a bit of misinformation, manipulation, and disingenuous statements. In fact, most of the “experts” involved with this film have a vested interest their version of reality being true. That is to say, if you end up believing the main thrust of the movie then they can directly profit off that belief by selling you their books, supplements, DVDs, etc.
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I don’t consider Fat Head to be on the level of a scam, but it is filled with quite a bit of misinformation, manipulation, and disingenuous statements. In fact, most of the “experts” involved with this film have a vested interest their version of reality being true. That is to say, if you end up believing the main thrust of the movie then they can directly profit off that belief by selling you their books, supplements, DVDs, etc.
To be fair, the vast majority of these movies are not documentaries. They are opinion pieces.
Micheal Moore has made a killing with these types of movies.
I don’t consider Fat Head to be on the level of a scam, but it is filled with quite a bit of misinformation, manipulation, and disingenuous statements. In fact, most of the “experts” involved with this film have a vested interest their version of reality being true. That is to say, if you end up believing the main thrust of the movie then they can directly profit off that belief by selling you their books, supplements, DVDs, etc.
I think we can all agree personal health is very subjective. The Paleo diet has been life changing for me. Don't knock it till you try it.
I find it mind boggling that in the year 2014 there are still people that claim that meat is 'bad' for you. I would assume such an opinion is based around the false belief that saturated fats are inherently unhealthy.
This is a subject I have become quite interested in lately. What I can determine so far is that there is much in this debate that is not settled one way or the other. I would be interested in seeing more evidence and science based research on this subject. It seems much more research needs to be done.
I am looking for skeptical evidence based responses to cases like The China Study and Forks Over Knives. Personally I am eating mainly vegan now to lose weight and improve my cholesterol and blood pressure. I may return to eating meat occasionally when I meet my weight goals. There does seem to be growing evidence for other benefits from a plant based diet.
It could be that meat is not "bad" for you, but other things are better.
The Kitava study serves as a disconfirming example to discredit the claims made for low-carb diets. Kitavans eat a very high-carb diet, with lots of saturated fat and little protein, and they appear to thrive on it without becoming obese or developing a high incidence of metabolic syndrome as the low-carb theorists would predict.
It is evidence against the hypothesis that low-fat diet recommendations caused the obesity “epidemic” simply because people replaced fat with carbohydrates. It shows that a diet high in carbohydrates does not necessarily lead to obesity, especially if they are complex carbohydrates and the total calorie intake is not excessive.
It supports the general consensus of most diet experts that a predominately plant-based diet is healthy. It supports Mom’s admonishments to eat our vegetables.
It suggests that saturated fat need not be avoided, especially if it is of vegetable rather than animal origin.
It tends to confirm the health benefits of weight control and the principle that weight can be controlled simply by limiting calories. The Kitavans are not overweight, and their intake of calories is lower than the conventional Western diet.
It tends to support advice to avoid processed foods and refined carbohydrates.
It reinforces the concept that humans can thrive on a wide variety of diets.
Isn't the real answer simply to EAT REAL FOOD. Eliminating anything processed or with an ingredient you don't know what it is.
I really like Micheal Polan's opinions on food. Although not rigoursly scientific it seems to be backed by what most of the science out there supports.
Eat Real Food, Not too Much, Mostly Plants. Beyond that I don't think it matters.
Low fat diets resulted in high carb intake for most people. This meant more processed and fast foods. These types of foods have lots of unhealthy carbs and tend to be very high in calories. Not surprising why people in North American got fat.
Saying we should eat vegetables isn't exactly an earth shattering finding.
Low carb is a great way to avoid bad foods. Tough to get 600g of carbs from vegetables/meat products, but rather easy to get it if you eat processed foods. Most people lead a sedentary lifestyle and simply do not need that many carbs.
Isn't the real answer simply to EAT REAL FOOD. Eliminating anything processed or with an ingredient you don't know what it is.
I really like Micheal Polan's opinions on food. Although not rigoursly scientific it seems to be backed by what most of the science out there supports.
Eat Real Food, Not too Much, Mostly Plants. Beyond that I don't think it matters.
The answer is to eat the amount that is recommended.
You can have a fully processed food diet - just make sure you stay within the caloric limits and hit all of your macronutrient targets. Easier done with real food and veggies than with processed food, but the fact that it's processed has no bearing on the actual nutritional value of the food.
Watched this 3hr series on BBC recently, if nothing it illuminates the sad state of our food supply, who is responsible and why. Fascinating stuff, cannot recommend this enough.
I was just interviewed by a journalist asking about nutrition. I told him that it is troublesome that there is so much conflicting information out there that people just don't know who or what to believe. And what makes matters worse is that people will get frustrated with all the mixed messages and pay to see a registered dietician who you would THINK would know what we should be eating. But what I have discovered is that in university the RDs are just learning Canada's Food Guide! Which most of us know is a very flawed document.
Just because one guy was able to lose 37 pounds while eating once a day at McDonalds doesn't mean that that is a positive thing in any way. His results are not due to eating at McDonalds, but IN SPITE OF eating at McDonalds. I don't know what the guy was trying to prove with this experiment. That you can lose weight while eating at McDonalds daily? You can lose weight eating nothing but Cinnibons; it doesn't make you healthy. Which SHOULD be the goal.
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FYI - I have been a vegetarian since the age of 20, so I have been vegetarian for more of my life than not now that I have hit 41. But one of my catch phrases is that I got healthier by switching from pizza, pasta and pie to beans, broccoli and bananas.
I'm not going to knock paleo or ANY other diet. I was saying to a friend the other day that I REFUSE to give ANY nutritional advice to people even though it is almost DEMANDED of me. What is working for me probably wouldn't work for you. What works for you, might not be at all appealing to me. As a friend of mine likes to put it, we are all our own experiment with a sample size of n=1.
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