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Old 01-06-2014, 06:49 PM   #1
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lanny Iowa science teacher loses 37 pounds on a 3 month McDiet

The point of the documentary, Cisna said, is that "It's our choices that make us fat - not McDonald's."

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Cisna ate nothing but McDonald's food for 90 days this fall while he and his team of three students at Colo-Nesco High School, 32 miles northeast of Des Moines, filmed a documentary of the experiment, KCCI.com reported.

What they found, Cisna said, was that he could eat any food he wanted from McDonald's as long as he ate smart the rest of the day, kept his daily intake to 2,000 calories, and tried to stick to recommended allowances of carbohydrates, proteins, fats and cholesterol.
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The students used the company's online nutritional information to guide the teacher's diet, which typically might include a couple of Egg White Delight McMuffins, maple oatmeal and 1 percent milk for breakfast, a salad for lunch and value meal for dinner.

The diet program included Big Macs, Quarter Pounders and sundaes, Cisna said. He also started walking 45 minutes a day.
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Not only did Cisna knock inches off his waistline -- "not only can I see my shoes now, but I can actually tie them," he quipped to KCCI -- he also cut his cholesterol from 249 to 170. He wasn't surprised by the weight loss because he wasn't exercising before the experiment, but he was surprised by the drop in his cholesterol level, he said.
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Somewhat misleading... all he did is basically start counting is caloric intake...

Pretty baffling for me that they're still people today that don't know this, it's all about measuring out needed intakes of different proteins/carbs/fats etc. People get fat because they over eat plain and simple, it's not Mcdonalds or all other fast food places that make you fat
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Yeah. In the short term, for the most part, as long as you burn more calories than you take in (no matter what you eat) you will lose weight. You could lose weight eating only Big Macs and fries though you might want to supplement that with fibre and a few vitamins so you don't drop dead in the interim, or have your colon bust out your ass.

This proves nothing.
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yeah, the truth is somewhere between this and Supersize me where the results could never be replicated.
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Plot twist: weight loss caused by pancreatic cancer from ingesting large amounts of fat and sugar
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Yeah. In the short term, for the most part, as long as you burn more calories than you take in (no matter what you eat) you will lose weight. You could lose weight eating only Big Macs and fries though you might want to supplement that with fibre and a few vitamins so you don't drop dead in the interim, or have your colon bust out your ass.

This proves nothing.
May I ask what the problem in the long term is, as long as the variables of the experiment is maintained? (ie. perfect calorie counting, macronutrient supplements and daily exercise)

I think this experiment lends credence to the "a calorie is a calorie" school of thought in nutrition - whether it's from a big mac or from a plain free-run, grain-fed chicken breast cooked without oil.
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The ruthlessly high sodium is the first thing that comes to mind: a diet of only Big Macs and fries would likely result in high blood pressure, potential heart problems, headaches, just a general feeling of absolute crap, and whatever else is associated with such a high sodium intake long term. With that kind of diet and no supplemental greens or fibre, I'd be a shoo-in for colon cancer, based on my family history.

So the guy in the video ate yogurt, egg whites, and salads, he exercised, and lost weight? Why is this even newsworthy? It accomplishes nothing but to defend McDonalds from the post-Super Size Me onslaught, which they don't really need 10 years after the fact.
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Yeah. In the short term, for the most part, as long as you burn more calories than you take in (no matter what you eat) you will lose weight. You could lose weight eating only Big Macs and fries though you might want to supplement that with fibre and a few vitamins so you don't drop dead in the interim, or have your colon bust out your ass.

This proves nothing.
He wasn't eating just Big Macs and fries.
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The ruthlessly high sodium is the first thing that comes to mind: a diet of only Big Macs and fries would likely result in high blood pressure, potential heart problems, headaches, just a general feeling of absolute crap, and whatever else is associated with such a high sodium intake long term. With that kind of diet and no supplemental greens or fibre, I'd be a shoo-in for colon cancer, based on my family history.

So the guy in the video ate yogurt, egg whites, and salads, he exercised, and lost weight? Why is this even newsworthy? It accomplishes nothing but to defend McDonalds from the post-Super Size Me onslaught, which they don't really need 10 years after the fact.
To show there are choices in what we eat and it doesn't always have to be fries and a burger. Maybe you didn't learn anything but from what i've read his students sure did. Eating out at a fast food place can be done with healthy choices.
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He wasn't eating just Big Macs and fries.
I realize that, I said what he ate in my other post. Forgetting about this guy for a second, I was trying say that Super Size Me could be "disproven" as one could actually lose weight on a Big Mac/fry diet assuming total intake is low enough and/or exercise is high enough. As Chad Ochocinco would say, "eat what you want to eat, as long as you work out like you're supposed to it won't bother you." Claims he ate McDonalds pretty much non-stop, as a pre-game meal even. That seemed to turn out alright.

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To show there are choices in what we eat and it doesn't always have to be fries and a burger. Maybe you didn't learn anything but from what i've read his students sure did. Eating out at a fast food place can be done with healthy choices.
I don't think people eat Big Macs and such because they're unaware that there are salads on the menu. I don't believe that for one second. McDonalds, Wendy's et al. prominently advertise their salads, wraps, and healthier choices. People eat Big Macs because they taste good, and are often cheaper than comparable healthy choices.
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I realize that, I said what he ate in my other post. Forgetting about this guy for a second, I was trying say that Super Size Me could be "disproven" as one could actually lose weight on a Big Mac/fry diet assuming total intake is low enough and/or exercise is high enough. As Chad Ochocinco would say, "eat what you want to eat, as long as you work out like you're supposed to it won't bother you." Claims he ate McDonalds pretty much non-stop, as a pre-game meal even. That seemed to turn out alright.
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I don't think people eat Big Macs and such because they're unaware that there are salads on the menu. I don't believe that for one second. McDonalds, Wendy's et al. prominently advertise their salads, wraps, and healthier choices. People eat Big Macs because they taste good, and are often cheaper than comparable healthy choices.
The times that i'm in there it's quite often the seniors and middle aged adults who are eating the healthier choices. Metabolism slowing down and waist line bulging forcing them to make hard choices. And yes not all do.

Teens are probably the worst offenders for eating the unhealthy choices. High metabolism and the ability to eat whatever you wanted - that was me back then. In fact i've gone from that person to someone who tries to watch what he eats, exercises daily yet struggles to lose weight.
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This guy proves a rational point. If you watch your nutrition, fast food is the same as any other food. There's no special obesity chemicals McDonald's injects that makes people fatter than if you prepared the same meals from stuff bought from the grocery store.

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This guy proves a rational point. If you watch your nutrition, fast food is the same as any other food. There's no special obesity chemicals McDonald's injects that makes people fatter than if you prepared the same meals from stuff bought from the grocery store.
Ya, I love preparing mechanically separated chicken and then washing it down with ammonia. Yep, nothing like serving up a batch of pink slime at home for the kiddies....


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Ya, I love preparing mechanically separated chicken and then washing it down with ammonia. Yep, nothing like serving up a batch of pink slime at home for the kiddies....

Pink slime was in something like over 80% of all beef sold in supermarkets in the US (Not so much in Canada). It wasn't exclusively a fast food thing.
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Im sure I could eat any combo once daily followed by nothing but fruits, veggies and nuts and do the same. As mentioned, weight loss is not the only indicator of health. For me to even consider watching this documentary, he would have to go get a full physical and show the findings.
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Plot twist: weight loss caused by pancreatic cancer from ingesting large amounts of fat and sugar
1995 called, they want their 'fat is evil' slogan back.
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Im sure I could eat any combo once daily followed by nothing but fruits, veggies and nuts and do the same. As mentioned, weight loss is not the only indicator of health. For me to even consider watching this documentary, he would have to go get a full physical and show the findings.
I'm also curious what his blood pressure is now, but I'd put money on it having dropped. Losing that much weight will make you a healthier person. Plus, he only did it for 90 days. It takes years of bad eating to get your blood pressure to the point where it is a hazard, and it is usually accompanied by being overweight.
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Supersize me is sadly total nonsense and it is very sad that people are so clueless about our food today, but not surprising considering the amount of bad info out there.
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This guy proves a rational point. If you watch your nutrition, fast food is the same as any other food. There's no special obesity chemicals McDonald's injects that makes people fatter than if you prepared the same meals from stuff bought from the grocery store.
I'm willing to bet no burger I've ever prepared has 34 grams of fat and 1,000+ mg of sodium. Granted that's extra lean ground beef, whole wheat buns, etc... but that's the flexibility afforded to you when you prepare your own food.
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