[GDT] Jan 5 - WJC Medal Games - Bronze: CAN vs RUS (7AM MT) & Gold: SWE vs FIN (11AM MT)

[Itse]

It's not that you make a mistake, but three times in a row the same mistake?

And totally blatant slash and a trip not called against the Swedes, when usually a ref gives the even up call...

Ve-ry convenient.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Haplo

lol at the finns claiming favouring by the refs. The refs have missed a clear elbow to the head a puck-out and a stick to the face they could have taken if they had been favouring. I can agree that one or two of those they have taken have been questionable, but lets call it even.

I am however impressed by the finnish defense and they're very dangerous when they get to the Swedish zone. Feels like 50-50 going into OT.

Umm, elbow to the head? You mean when Collberg made a turn and crashed into a Finn himself? (Into his shoulder, to be exact...)

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Haplo

lol at the finns claiming favouring by the refs. The refs have missed a clear elbow to the head a puck-out and a stick to the face they could have taken if they had been favouring. I can agree that one or two of those they have taken have been questionable, but lets call it even.

I am however impressed by the finnish defense and they're very dangerous when they get to the Swedish zone. Feels like 50-50 going into OT.

I'm not saying the refs are consciously biased. Just sad to see two or three PPs go one way on weak calls when the game is on the line. Happens in international tournaments all the time of course.

[Sgrath]

Originally Posted by Henry Fool

I'm not saying the refs are consciously biased. Just sad to see two or three PPs go one way on weak calls when the game is on the line. Happens in international tournaments all the time of course.

So refs working to NHL standards then

[Henry Fool]

Originally Posted by Sgrath

So refs working to NHL standards then

I think most people would agree that the internation refs are significantly worse. They're chosen based on their penis-sucking abilities rather than good judgement.

[Haplo]

Originally Posted by Itse

Umm, elbow to the head? You mean when Collberg made a turn and crashed into a Finn himself? (Into his shoulder, to be exact...)

I think those without the blue-white glasses on saw the finn throw up his elbow as Collberg turned. Anyway, I think if Finland had tried to play some offensive hockey for more than the last five minutes of the game (when they looked quite good), they wouldn't have gotten so many penalties either.

[Itse]

Finnish commentator Tamminen, blatantly called the Swiss ref René Fasels "political pick" for the game, and says that it's "it's been like this year after year".

Sounds like there's going be some behind the scenes shouting matches after the game about the reffing, regardless of how it ends.

[Itse]

Originally Posted by Haplo

I think those without the blue-white glasses on saw the finn throw up his elbow as Collberg turned.

I'll give you that the shoulder was high (which was a rather clear reflex move against an incoming hit), but Collberg pretty clearly hit the shoulder, not the elbow.

Also, they started to play offensive, the first phantom penalty was on midice.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Itse

Finnish commentator Tamminen, blatantly called the Swiss ref René Fasels "political pick" for the game, and says that it's "it's been like this year after year".

Sounds like there's going be some behind the scenes shouting matches after the game about the reffing, regardless of how it ends.

And that is also par for the course in international hockey. i.e.: The Punch-up in Piestany happened because an inferior referee was selected for political reasons.


Also, as a neutral observer, I'm happy with either result. Get to see the home team win, or get to see the underdog win. But please, for the love of god, don't ruin this entire tournament by having the final go to a shootout!

[Rubicant]

Originally Posted by Itse

Finnish commentator Tamminen, blatantly called the Swiss ref René Fasels "political pick" for the game, and says that it's "it's been like this year after year".

Sounds like there's going be some behind the scenes shouting matches after the game about the reffing, regardless of how it ends.

Shouldn't that ref be.... Neutral?

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Wow, close for the Finns.

[Saqe]

Originally Posted by Haplo

I think those without the blue-white glasses on saw the finn throw up his elbow as Collberg turned. Anyway, I think if Finland had tried to play some offensive hockey for more than the last five minutes of the game (when they looked quite good), they wouldn't have gotten so many penalties either.

Offensive hockey, defensive hockey... doesn't have anything to do with crap officiating

[Roof-Daddy]

Wooo!

Congrats Finland!

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Wow, Ristolanien was just a massive stud in the OT. What a player.

[AC]

#### yeah Finland!

[Henry Fool]

ez

[Table 5]

Well that was something nice.

[trublmaker]

good to see the Finns win

[Itse]

Hah, suck it Fasel and your "let's make this a better game".

Unnecessary delay of the right result.

[Hockey_Ninja]

Congrats to the Fins. Well deserved.