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Old 01-02-2014, 07:25 PM   #61
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Nonsense. There was no mis-casting. It was simply poorly written. There was no saving that character with this movie. Abrams has no idea how to provide anything outside of shallow story-telling and lens flares.
Yeah it was miscasting but you are right that the writing didn't do him any favours. Cumberbatch is way too deadpan. Almost robotic. Khan is an animated figure. Yes he had superhuman strength and intellect but still a very intense man at the core. Abrams Khan is more like an alien than a man. It's like Abrams decided at the last minute he could change his written villain to Khan to spice up the movie. Wrong actor and wrong profile for Khan.
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:46 PM   #63
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Into Darkness was bad.

I love the forced and ridiculous scene between Khan and Kirk where Kirk starts punching him like crazy. The intention in that scene was to set up a real animosity and relationship between those two characters. Instead it a was ridiculous pastiche of rivalry something that made no sense and was forced due to the horribly wooden and literally unreal grief Kirk felt for that admiral dude dying. Couple that with action-for-the-hell-of-it and no understanding of who that bad guy was yet and get a silly inconsequential scene that summarizes the whole movie.
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Old 01-02-2014, 07:47 PM   #64
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If they do a third Star Trek I don't know if I'll be able to watch it.

They turned Khan, of all characters, played by Cumberbatch, of all actors, into an empty shell of a man that you didn't care if he lived or died, won or lost.

Just terrible character and story development.
They should have gone with Fassbender.
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They should have gone with Fassbender.
I know that's an ongoing laugh as I agree some here seem infatuated with the dude but I really think he could to a pretty good Khan. He's got the range to be able to pull that role off.
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I know that's an ongoing laugh as I agree some here seem infatuated with the dude but I really think he could to a pretty good Khan. He's got the range to be able to pull that role off.
Can't see how his performance would be distinguishable from Cumberbatch's though.
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I know that's an ongoing laugh as I agree some here seem infatuated with the dude but I really think he could to a pretty good Khan. He's got the range to be able to pull that role off.
Yeah, the reason people love Fassbender is because he is actually one of the best actors out there today. He's pretty darn brilliant and is on one heck of a hot streak. I watched 12 years a Slave last night, one of the best movies on the year and Fassbender was outstanding in it too.

12 Years a Slave, Rush and Gravity are three of the best for me so far.
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Gravity, The World's End and Captain Phillips were probably my three favorite movies this year. Hunger Games probably close behind those three. I have yet to see American Hustle or Dallas Buyers Club, which might change my picks.

Not sure how I feel about Wolf of Wall Street yet. 2/3 of it were great, but the last 1/3 really dragged. Which might be kind of the point? The more I've talked about it since I saw it, the more I have appreciated how everything wrapped up.
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By suggestion of this forum I watched Prisoners last night:

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Old 01-03-2014, 10:11 AM   #72
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Yeah, the reason people love Fassbender is because he is actually one of the best actors out there today. He's pretty darn brilliant and is on one heck of a hot streak. I watched 12 years a Slave last night, one of the best movies on the year and Fassbender was outstanding in it too.
Yeah kind of lost in some of the negative stuff regarding Prometheus was how he aced the role of David. He played the synthetic human to near perfection.
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Prisoners really sacrificed alot for the Scooby Doo ending. In order to make the end a secret reveal they had to completely gloss over the motivations of the villain making them a cartoon.

It was basically a kidnapping movie with pretensions of something grandeur but all those pretensions took away from the basic story, made the logic of the plot rotten, and added an extra 45 minutes of bloat like characters saying the same things to each other in different scenes. Inefficient script, lame construction of suspense, ridiculous and highly amoral themes, and unexplained or bewildering plot devices.

I see where they wanted it to go, but the script just was too poor to take them there.
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Prisoners really sacrificed alot for the Scooby Doo ending. In order to make the end a secret reveal they had to completely gloss over the motivations of the villain making them a cartoon.

It was basically a kidnapping movie with pretensions of something grandeur but all those pretensions took away from the basic story, made the logic of the plot rotten, and added an extra 45 minutes of bloat like characters saying the same things to each other in different scenes. Inefficient script, lame construction of suspense, ridiculous and highly amoral themes, and unexplained or bewildering plot devices.

I see where they wanted it to go, but the script just was too poor to take them there.
I agree and said in the other movie thread that I kind of thought the ending was a letdown but the first half of the movie is really well done and I don't know how you can call it terrible as that's reserved for movies that are bad. IMO it was a good movie that could have been great but settled for just good because of the 2nd half of the movie.
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They should have gone with Fassbender.
I remember back when the casting rumours came out the word was that Benicio Del Toro had been cast as the villain. Everyone immediately thought 'Khan!' due to the ethnicity. It ended up falling through or something.

He would've been a much better Khan than Cumberbatch. I feel like Cumberbatch needed to have his own character to work with. He's a good actor and could've been excellent.
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For a guy who waxed poetic about having a finite number of hours in a lifetime, he sure does seem to watch any and every movie out there, all TV shows, even multiple seasons of ones he hates. Not to mention the vast amount of NHL games he watches to become such an expert on all things NHL.
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Worst movie of the year was, without a doubt, Anchorman 2. Hardly a laugh to be found and just an overall painful experience to endure. I think I would have preferred being at the dentist as I bet I could have found more pleasure in my hygienist scraping my gums with a metal spike while scolding me for not flossing than I found in Will Ferrell's forced attempts at humour.
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The hyperbole used to express distaste in some of these movies is the most entertaining thing about this thread.

Hilarious.
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Worst movie of the year was, without a doubt, Anchorman 2. Hardly a laugh to be found and just an overall painful experience to endure. I think I would have preferred being at the dentist as I bet I could have found more pleasure in my hygienist scraping my gums with a metal spike while scolding me for not flossing than I found in Will Ferrell's forced attempts at humour.
Seconded. What a let down. It was painful to get through.

I think the 1 minute dinner scene was the only one I laughed at.
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Just finished watching Don Jon..............not sure what to make of it.
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