Lockheart has no reason to offer her the station chief job. It makes zero sense. Bang the audience over the head that the Senator doesn't agree with the current way the Company is being run and sees Carrie as an uncontrollable analyst who is mentally ill and disobeys orders --> Youngest Station Chief in history in the premiere post in the Middle East.
Maybe because everything they did, everything he initially opposed, succeeded with flying colors, was a huge coup for the CIA, and, as was stated by Saul or Dar Adal, would make his career, running a highly placed, highly influential Iranian as a CIA asset, the benefits of which were already being realized by the end of the episode.
In the face of all of that, it would have been ridiculous of him to maintain a grudge
Except it was Saul who did it, often while Carrie was close to burning it all down on multiple occassions. It's not logical at all, but whatever, there's been a lot of logic leaps in this show the last two seasons.
Carrie was integral to the plot; what she went through to lure in Javadi, pulling Brody out of the abyss and convincing him to go to Iran, and being right that he hadn't played them and would go through with the mission.
Given that Lockhart was a politician, the most realistic move was for him to do an immediate 180 and pretend like he was in favour of everything all along.
And the only reason she wasn't dead on one of the occassions that she tried to torpedo everything is that Quinn is a nice guy with a good shot. Her getting promoted would never happen except on TV. Never.
She's an insubordinate recruiter with mental stability issues and she's 8 months pregnant. It would never happen.
I suspect that if she climbed the fence at Brody's hanging in real life, as people cheered for his death, they would have beaten her in the street and lit her on fire.
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I am curious how they plan on continuing a show that mainly focused on a character and storyline that was killed off at the end of the 3rd year.
The other characters hold a bit of interest, but I dont really see where this is headed. I have zero interest in watching Carrie struggle with the working or absentee mom thing.
I cant see this show making it past the next season. Just as well I suppose, the story has been told, time to find something else to watch I guess.
I certainly loved the second last episode though. I will pretend that was the series finale so it could go out on a high note.
I am curious how they plan on continuing a show that mainly focused on a character and storyline that was killed off at the end of the 3rd year.
The other characters hold a bit of interest, but I dont really see where this is headed. I have zero interest in watching Carrie struggle with the working or absentee mom thing.
I cant see this show making it past the next season. Just as well I suppose, the story has been told, time to find something else to watch I guess.
I certainly loved the second last episode though. I will pretend that was the series finale so it could go out on a high note.
If they are going to keep letting Carrie get away with all her crap, she's got to start being a little more awesome at her job. I could always kind of accept Jack Bauer getting away with stuff because he was always one step ahead of the terrorists and a bad ass. But Carrie's only great talent was being the only one to catch on that Brody was bad, then being the only one to realize he was actually good.
And the only reason she wasn't dead on one of the occassions that she tried to torpedo everything is that Quinn is a nice guy with a good shot. Her getting promoted would never happen except on TV. Never.
She's an insubordinate recruiter with mental stability issues and she's 8 months pregnant. It would never happen.
LOL. Looks like you've got all of the facts sewn up.
True story: I work with a guy who's harsh with other workmates and once went MIA for an entire week on a drug addled tour through east Van which threw the office into disarray and included losing a non-password protected phone containing sensitive client info. Not only was he not fired, shortly after he was given a big raise. Why? Because he brings in a lot of money.
In the real world, bottom line success will cover over a lot of warts, and Carrie was integral to a massive bottom line success for the CIA. As much as I can't stand her, she got the job done.
Just watched the finale. I feel like watching 10 episodes of Seinfeld after that to balance out the upsetting feeling.
The hanging scene was more upsetting than it was a shock. Thought about comparing it to another tragic scene like the Red Wedding - watching that did not invoke any feelings of sadness at all - it was more like "oh f### that was awesome"
This scene, however, had a totally different feeling to it - it was really sad and gave me a headache. I guess it kind of hit me how things like that happen all the time in the real world - things like public execution of people just accused of being criminal by the state, and on going bombings everyday, etc etc
Overall I would give this season a 7/10.
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Really good episode, but I don't see the point in continuing on. It should have been the series finale.
agreed I can't sit here for 8 months being excited for the next season with the only story line remaining of will Carrie have her baby or give it away. They should have just ended the series since they wrapped it up in such a nice little bow. It is like the writers new they were all going to be fired because their contracts were up and didn't think they would pay for them to come back
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No idea where they will go from here. They turned Brody too soon, they could easily have drawn that out over a couple of more seasons.
Listened to a Homeland podcast, and they don't believe that Brody is really dead. As crazy as it sounds, they make a good point - where can the show go from here if he really is dead? I just don't understand how you could kill off one half of the best duo on television. Didn't Damian Lewis win an Emmy for best actor just last year?
Oh, I agree, this season was garbage for the most part. Two, maybe three good episodes while the rest was filler.
I'm talking about how they took Brody into custody at the start of season two. They should have not done that so soon into the show, unless they were just aiming for three quick seasons.
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I actually was wondering, when he was hanging there, how they could/might possibly say he didn't die/had a body double or secretly escaped.
As much as I was sad to see him go (more because I don't know what the show can be without him), I would hate for them to go that route and say he's still alive.
