So umm...help?

[llwhiteoutll]

If he's 22, there is probably a good chance he is still in school.

[Regular_John]

Originally Posted by pylon

Sorry, I don't understand this logic. I am 39, so not exactly ancient, and at 22, I had a mortgage, 2 vehicles, did my own taxes and was running my own business. Most of my friends were in the same or similar position. When exactly did this happen that a 22 year old is considered a clueless, helpless child? I see this mentality or perception a lot now. Why are adult children still having their bums wiped by mommy and daddy?

Really Pylon?

You're gonna jump all over a parent's comment made while stressing about a family member in a dangerous/frustrating situation?

You've never been in a situation with a family member where all you could think was "man they are being dumb/stubborn". So you're gonna cherry pick this one as an example of helicopter parenting or something?

Get over yourself. She was stressed about a family member and simply aired some frustration, it has nothing to do with her parenting, or this 22 year old's handle on the world.

Yes yes, I know, the NEP, Trudeau, up hill both ways in -40, etc,.

[Minnie]

He was being a clueless idiot because after they got turned around and were on their way back to Chestermere, the whiteout got infinitely worse and he figured that sitting in the middle of the highway, not moving, was the thing to do. I got that he was panicked, but listen to the voices of those who have 30 years driving experience on you, when they tell you to creep over to the right shoulder, and see if you can find/feel the rumble strip at the very least, along the white line that delineates the shoulder from the highway. That way, you will have an idea where you are on the road. Plus, he needed to be on that side of the road anyway, to get the exit into Chestermere and if he was on the right hand shoulder, he shouldn't miss the exit. I was angry with him for telling us the 100 reasons why he couldn't do that, instead of taking some action and just doing something besides sit in the middle of a highway, waiting to become the hood ornament of a big rig.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by llwhiteoutll

If he's 22, there is probably a good chance he is still in school.

And.....

Does University make you a helpless child, or stunt your ability to think your way out of an emergency situation? You would think all that extra education would make you better to cope with it.

I am not trying to be the contrarian in this thread, but it originally seemed like we she was dealing with a 16 year old that just got his license the way this thread was written. Not someone that is a fully grown legal adult on every part of the globe.

I dunno, I just find it odd.

[JiriHrdina]

Holy crow Pylon your objections are really misplaced. Just be glad the dude is ok

[moon]

At 22 most of your friends had a mortgage and their own businesses?

I know you are a fan of the good old days and a guy that likes to talk about how things were better when you were younger but you don't seem that old (my guess is 40-45) and from people I know in that range I would think you and your friends would have been the exception not the rule if you owned your own businesses and had mortgages.

Maybe it is because at 22 me and my friends had just finished or were finishing university but I can't think of a single friend, family member or acquaint that had a mortgage at 22 and nobody that owned any business of consequence. I don't think I or my friends are that different from most.

[pylon]

I totally get how I am looking like an a-hole here. Sorry about that.

I am, just kinda baffled by the whole situation. It seems bizarre to me that it escalated to this point. Especially if his natural reaction was to stop in the middle of the highway, instead of pulling into the shoulder.

[Minnie]

Honestly pylon, he was a fecking idiot. Ok? I got that. I know that. What I didn't know to do was to call the police or whatever. I don't like to do that. I didn't want to do that, ok? I felt like it was being a bother. I panicked to a degree as well, as did he. He's not driven in a storm like this before and he has a tendency to be a hothead and think he knows more than anyone else. In almost every other situation, I'm very inclined to let him deal with the consequences of his actions because I figure the bitch slap life levels at him, is probably a better teacher. But you know? We've had enough sickness and death in this family in the last little while, that I just didn't want to leave him to it.

Perhaps having attended the funeral yesterday, of our neighbor who died in that accident on the 18th, was a little bit of a contribution.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by moon

At 22 most of your friends had a mortgage and their own businesses?

I know you are a fan of the good old days and a guy that likes to talk about how things were better when you were younger but you don't seem that old (my guess is 40-45) and from people I know in that range I would think you and your friends would have been the exception not the rule if you owned your own businesses and had mortgages.

Maybe it is because at 22 me and my friends had just finished or were finishing university but I can't think of a single friend, family member or acquaint that had a mortgage at 22 and nobody that owned any business of consequence. I don't think I or my friends are that different from most.

Haha, I feel like I am being the Moon of this thread. Mr. opposite opinion for the sake of it. I just simply find it odd that a 22 year old can't think his way out of a pretty simple situation, that's all. Stopping in the middle of the highway is a very dangerous and irrational conclusion to draw.

In retrospect, if someone else had of made my post I would have probably jumped on them to. Oh well, you know what they say about opinions....

Also you could buy a house or condo for 100k in the mid 90's with 5k down, it wasn't a for 5 months to put together a down payment, and it was not uncommon for people under 25 to own homes. And you don't have to guess my age, I put it in the first post.

I will bow out. I am an a-hole. Get off my lawn. Etc, etc.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by Minnie

Honestly pylon, he was a fecking idiot. Ok? I got that. I know that. What I didn't know to do was to call the police or whatever. I don't like to do that. I didn't want to do that, ok? I felt like it was being a bother. I panicked to a degree as well, as did he. He's not driven in a storm like this before and he has a tendency to be a hothead and think he knows more than anyone else. In almost every other situation, I'm very inclined to let him deal with the consequences of his actions because I figure the bitch slap life levels at him, is probably a better teacher. But you know? We've had enough sickness and death in this family in the last little while, that I just didn't want to leave him to it.

Perhaps having attended the funeral yesterday, of our neighbor who died in that accident on the 18th, was a little bit of a contribution.

You did the right thing, and are obviously a good mother. And ignore my posts, I am not exactly the right guy to listen to for parental advice. I can barely manage to raise a wiener dog properly. My internal monologue made it past the filter, and escaped out to the internet (that tends to happen from time to time). I suppose I am just use to a different style of parenting.

[Sliver]

Gotta stick up for pylon here. I think it's insane a 22 year old man with a smart phone needed to call his mom for help to drive in a snow storm. On top of that, I'm not sure what you expected us to do to help. We all have these little life dramas from time to time...sharing them on social media can be helpful, but in cases like this where nobody can actually help they only serve to amplify the problem, imo.

At the end of the day we had a man driving in bad weather and a worried mom. There were probably 10,000 other worried moms in Calgary last night at the exact same time.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Gotta stick up for pylon here. I think it's insane a 22 year old man with a smart phone needed to call his mom for help to drive in a snow storm. On top of that, I'm not sure what you expected us to do to help. We all have these little life dramas from time to time...sharing them on social media can be helpful, but in cases like this where nobody can actually help they only serve to amplify the problem, imo.

At the end of the day we had a man driving in bad weather and a worried mom. There were probably 10,000 other worried moms in Calgary last night at the exact same time.

No part of me is surprised by this post.

[llwhiteoutll]

Originally Posted by pylon

And.....

Does University make you a helpless child, or stunt your ability to think your way out of an emergency situation? You would think all that extra education would make you better to cope with it.

I am not trying to be the contrarian in this thread, but it originally seemed like we she was dealing with a 16 year old that just got his license the way this thread was written. Not someone that is a fully grown legal adult on every part of the globe.

I dunno, I just find it odd.

I guarantee there are situations that you would be in where you would be nervous or panicked in and not be thinking straight.

It's entirely possible he's a newer driver or hasn't experienced absolute whiteout conditions on unfamiliar roads.

[ricosuave]

∆ I think he just did...

[flamesfever]

My son stopped talking to me at 14 and never started again until he was 24. It was always, "Dad, don't tell me that, I know that already".

I can tell you, as a parent, that you never stop worrying about your kids... even when they are in their 40's or 50's.

[pylon]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

My son stopped talking to me at 14 and never started again until he was 24. It was always, "Dad, don't tell me that, I know that already".

I can tell you, as a parent, that you never stop worrying about your kids... even when they are in their 40's or 50's.

And I am pretty sure the fact that I am not a parent contributes to my total ignorance in this thread. I was the opposite of Minnie's kid, and a lot like yours. I was out on my own and working full time when I was 17. It was go to University, or get out of the house, and I opted for the latter.

That, and I am kind of an ignoramus.

[Dion]

Glad to hear he's safe, Minnie.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Sliver

Gotta stick up for pylon here. I think it's insane a 22 year old man with a smart phone needed to call his mom for help to drive in a snow storm. On top of that, I'm not sure what you expected us to do to help. We all have these little life dramas from time to time...sharing them on social media can be helpful, but in cases like this where nobody can actually help they only serve to amplify the problem, imo.

At the end of the day we had a man driving in bad weather and a worried mom. There were probably 10,000 other worried moms in Calgary last night at the exact same time.

You think it's insane and I think her son did the right thing calling home. On top of that to ridicule a mother who was extremely worried about her son is in poor form. She was panicking like any good parent would do and reached out to us for some help. I'm sure it made Minnie feel better knowing members here shared her concern and were all hoping for a safe out come.

[return to the red]

Originally Posted by pylon

Sorry, I don't understand this logic. I am 39, so not exactly ancient, and at 22, I had a mortgage, 2 vehicles, did my own taxes and was running my own business. Most of my friends were in the same or similar position. When exactly did this happen that a 22 year old is considered a clueless, helpless child? I see this mentality or perception a lot now. Why are adult children still having their bums wiped by mommy and daddy?

Kids, they just don't make 'em the way they used to

Side story, when I was back visiting my parents for the Holidays I went out drinking with some buddies. The town had changed since the last time I had been there so I don't know where I was exactly and how to get back to my parents. Called my mom to see if she would come pick me up to which I got the reply "walk south" *click*

[Street Pharmacist]

Originally Posted by return to the red

Kids, they just don't make 'em the way they used to

I made one a couple years ago and the process has remained largely unchanged.